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  • GCUT519
    Junior Member
    • May 2022
    • 8

    Sportster Ignition Fuse Blowing

    I have a 2003 XLH1200 that I hard-tailed. I used the factory wiring harness, just shortening some wires to fit the new frame. I reassembled everything and the bike worked well. I disassembled it for paint and reassembled again, looming the wiring. When I hit the start switch, the 15amp ignition fuse blew. I have removed all the loom to expose the wires and check for a short, but cannot find one. The fuse blows when the starter relay is connected. If I remove the relay, pressing the start switch does not blow the fuse. I used a multimeter and checked the wires from the switch to the relay socket and they all check out fine. Checking each of the wires from the controls to ground, I have no continuity, the needle on the ohms meter stays at the highest end, not moving. This tells me I have a problem with, or after the starter relay. I put another, used but working as far as I know, relay in and the fuse blows when I press the start switch, just like the other relay. Checking the wires in the relay socket to ground, I get no continuity between ground and the black/red wire coming from the starter switch to the starter relay. I get a 0 ohms reading from ground to the green wire that goes to the starter motor. I see no nicks, etc on the wire so I think it is ok. I don't know what to do next to diagnose the problem...
  • JBinNC
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 2713

    #2
    Sounds like the green wire from relay to solenoid is grounded. Or the solenoid is shorted to ground internally. Disconnect the solenoid and try the start button again. You are on the right path to figuring this out.

    Jim

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    • GCUT519
      Junior Member
      • May 2022
      • 8

      #3
      Thanks, Jim. I was thinking it sounds like the green wire , but it appears fine. Maybe it is internal. will take a closer look at it tonight.

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      • SteveJ
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2022
        • 128

        #4
        Make sure your front end/handelbars are grounded properly.
        I always run a separate ground to the riser bolts from the frame.

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        • GCUT519
          Junior Member
          • May 2022
          • 8

          #5
          Originally posted by JBinNC
          Sounds like the green wire from relay to solenoid is grounded. Or the solenoid is shorted to ground internally. Disconnect the solenoid and try the start button again. You are on the right path to figuring this out.

          Jim
          The green wire going to the solenoid is fine. To be sure, I disconnected the green wire from the solenoid and the relay plug so it wasn't even in the equation. I reconnected the relay, turned on the ignition, and when I pressed the start switch the fuse blew. Now I know it isn't the green wire or the solenoid, but I still can't figure it out.

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          • GCUT519
            Junior Member
            • May 2022
            • 8

            #6
            Originally posted by SteveJ
            Make sure your front end/handelbars are grounded properly.
            I always run a separate ground to the riser bolts from the frame.

            Thanks, Steve. I don't think a fuse would blow from a lack of ground, it just wouldn't have power as the circuit wouldn't be complete. Of course, I could be wrong. Also, when I had the bike running before disassembling for paint, I didn't have a separate ground then and everything worked properly.

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            • SteveJ
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2022
              • 128

              #7
              Originally posted by GCUT519
              Thanks, Steve. I don't think a fuse would blow from a lack of ground, it just wouldn't have power as the circuit wouldn't be complete. Of course, I could be wrong. Also, when I had the bike running before disassembling for paint, I didn't have a separate ground then and everything worked properly.
              I was assuming you had switches on the handlebars.Weird stuff can happen without the handlebar ground.
              If you dont have this ground then this is an opportunity to complete your wiring harness , in my wiring harness work there are usually 3-4 dedicated grounds as on stock bikes.
              Sketchy grounds make components work harder , making electrical components work harder means more heat , more heat means fuses/breakers blow.
              Good luck!

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              • GCUT519
                Junior Member
                • May 2022
                • 8

                #8
                Originally posted by SteveJ
                I was assuming you had switches on the handlebars.Weird stuff can happen without the handlebar ground.
                If you dont have this ground then this is an opportunity to complete your wiring harness , in my wiring harness work there are usually 3-4 dedicated grounds as on stock bikes.
                Sketchy grounds make components work harder , making electrical components work harder means more heat , more heat means fuses/breakers blow.
                Good luck!
                I am running the stock controls on the bars. I am going to try adding a separate ground from the riser bolts to the frame like you suggested and see what happens. I appreciate your input greatly, Steve!

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                • SteveJ
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2022
                  • 128

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GCUT519
                  I am running the stock controls on the bars. I am going to try adding a separate ground from the riser bolts to the frame like you suggested and see what happens. I appreciate your input greatly, Steve!
                  Its not gonna hurt!

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                  • docmel
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 884

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteveJ
                    Its not gonna hurt!
                    Ill bet its in the handlebar controls. Most likely a wire pinched or frayed, especially where the controls pinch against the handlebars and the harness passes thru

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                    • GCUT519
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2022
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by docmel
                      Ill bet its in the handlebar controls. Most likely a wire pinched or frayed, especially where the controls pinch against the handlebars and the harness passes thru
                      That is the most common cause, but I am confident it is not that. I have had the controls off and inspected and all the wires look good. Then I used the multimeter to check for conductivity with ground on each wire individually, and also while pressing the start switch. That checks out fine. Since the fuse doesn't blow until the start switch is pressed, and the relay is on, that has to indicate something, but I haven't been able sort it out yet.

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                      • SteveJ
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 128

                        #12
                        Its not the ignition fuse thats blowing if it happens when you press the start switch.
                        Its the starter circuit fuse which is actually a circuit breaker most likely, to use the correct terms.
                        Ignition and starter circuits are 2 seperate circuits , the only connection is that the starter switch gets its power from the ignition kill switch in the right handlebar switch cluster.

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                        • GCUT519
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2022
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SteveJ
                          Its not the ignition fuse thats blowing if it happens when you press the start switch.
                          Its the starter circuit fuse which is actually a circuit breaker most likely, to use the correct terms.
                          Ignition and starter circuits are 2 seperate circuits , the only connection is that the starter switch gets its power from the ignition kill switch in the right handlebar switch cluster.
                          It is labeled "Ign. 15A" so that's why I say it is the ignition fuse. There are four fuses on the bike: Ign, Instr, Lights, and Acc. All are 15 Amp. The main circuit breaker that runs a lead to the starter solenoid is 30A and isn't the problem. I'm still working on it, but I'm stumped. The Red/Blk wire in the starter relay plug that goes back to the ignition switch reads 0 ohms when checked with ground. This seems wrong to me. I don't think it should have continuity with ground, but I have the wiring completely exposed now and cannot see any cuts, breaks, nicks, etc.

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                          • SteveJ
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2022
                            • 128

                            #14
                            I just had a look at a schem diagram for this bike , pretty easy to read and very few wires in the circuits you are working on.

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                            • GCUT519
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2022
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteveJ
                              I just had a look at a schem diagram for this bike , pretty easy to read and very few wires in the circuits you are working on.
                              Yeah, I agree it looks simple. That's part of why it is so frustrating...

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