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11-04-2021 #121
That's gotta be the case... It's no small feat to notch those hardened gear teeth like that. There would certainly be pump body damage from an event that did that.
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Might have been someone reusing what they had. Lotta backyard rebuilds back when those engines weren't valuable and the owners had to get to work.
That might have been the prettiest piece of a wrecked donor pump. Shit happens.
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More "Wall Art" ...
Been prepping the right case ...
The ditch was for top end oil return on the 48 to 52 year models ..
We have a whole new ballgame for oil return now, so a bit of filling went down on the case ...
The jugs have the return holes in them as in the 53-up jugs ...
Being the motor is a stroker they have been lowered ...
The new left case will need to be drilled for this new oil path when the time comes ...
The 52 ^^ with the holes drilled for strokers ...
Those back in the day TRW pistons ^^ came with Teflon wrist pin buttons ...
I'm having "Ron Axtell" make up some for the 52 motor which came with wire locks ..
Speaking of the 48 EL ...
Got a sack full of parts coming in Tuesday from VT ..
In that sack of parts are Hasting Molly 0.040" over rings ..
The bore on the jugs are at .030" over the std bore of 3-7/16" ..
By having that .010" more than the size of what the bore is at will allow me to custom fit the ring gaps to my liking ...
And a fresh hone job on the jug walls will happen ...
Another sack of parts are due to also come in from S&S Cycle ..
In it is a custom made sprocket shaft having the L-81-up communized taper with keyway ... That move will have me breaking down the crank in order to send the left wheel to T&O for machining the taper out to the late taper ..
(Be a good time to up-grade the balance job by matching the recip. weights of the front and rear Rods/Pistons)
Also in that sack are S&S pushrods for 48-52 tappets, what was there in the lifter blocks was the 53-up hyd tappets with solid adapters ... Since we was needing the FL longer pushrods anyways converting back to the 48-52 tappets is a plus due to ease of adjustment ...Last edited by Dragstews; 11-05-2021 at 10:10 AM.
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11-05-2021 #124Senior Member
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I really like those teflon buttons, wish they still used them. Loving this thread!
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Tasty! I like the bore/ring fit strategy.
Confirm upgrading the balance job.
Which traditional exhaust (stock or aftermarket) is the least shitty? Stainless preferred but can Cerakote a black set if required.Last edited by farmall; 11-05-2021 at 9:03 AM.
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We can go a step further with the rings that are on there way to my greasy hands ...
I can pull the second compression rings from that ring set and send em to Total Seal in Az. for having em made into "Gapless" ...
The 92" 1952 motor will have it's second rings converted to Gapless ...
Hadn't got around to boxing them up yet, but sure would be great timing to add another set in the box ...
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How much for the conversion? Others may be interested too.
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Bout a buck and a quarter .... If they hasn't gone up ??
Been awhile since the last set they did for me ...
Do think that was on Jeremy's 51 ...
If you do decide to go with the mod, it'll make three sets that will be shipped ..
I'm sending my rings for my 52 that's getting 80" Shovel jugs installed ... They are 3-1/2 + .020" over ...
Did a deburr and some welding to em in order for the powder-coat to lay down nice .. They kinda look like they was CNC-ed now ...
Photo in a short
Also they was machined for the poor-boy fire-ring step ...
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Might as well go "whole hog" as I'd like to see how well they work.
Send 'em.
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Will make it so ....
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Here's the 80 inch Shovel jugs that's going on my scooter ....
I left the casting numbers on em, just to show that they are the real McCoy ...
Good photo ^^ showing the fire ring step ... That will allow for a bit more crush on a fire-ring head gasket ...
Works super well when Hi-Compression is in the picture .. I'm running 9.1:1 ... Not a real big need for it, but I was in the mode of doing at the time, so it got done ...
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11-05-2021 #132
how deep and wide is the ring of fire, if I may be so bold as to ask LOL? Oh and those cylinders are lovely, lots of lovin and rubbing on those.
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Not a real big need for it, but I was in the mode of doing at the time, so it got done ...
What's your preferred head gasket? I'll need two complete engine sets worth of gaskets and seals (presumably put together from various sources) one of which you'll use on the engine and the other as bench stock.
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Taking .003" to .004" off the top leaving .125" which is the same width of the James metal fire ring built into there gaskets.
S&S does this on all their Shovel jugs, not sure if I got the idea from them or they got the idea from me .. ??
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On the VT order got the James fire ring gaskets ordered .. This is a Top-end kit which also contains formet base gaskets..
Photos of the mother load Tuesday ....
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11-05-2021 #135
Informative and willing to share as always, thank you
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Being informative and willing to share is good for business and the reason my money flows his way.
Dragstews is shrewder than the average bear (mere survival in the independent bike shop world requires a staggering effort over a very long time doing tons of boring annoying details that aren't fun or cool) so he wisely showcases his work in complete detail. He knows his expertise and connections take so much to replicate (and another lifetime to do that) that showing how it's done in detail will not cost him any revenue and will bring in more loot for beer, hookers, Buells etc.
It's free, highly in-depth advertising for specialty services that also gives Chop Cult content which attracts page hits which attract advertisers. The ancient term "crazy like a fox" comes to mind.
Showing your work process is the perfect counter to shit many independents do like hoarding information, and posting progress is likewise superior promotion than adverts because "progress is proof". As he wisely outsources appropriate tasks so others wisely outsource to him.
Building an HD isn't hard but knowing the detailed specifics and WHY specific mods are the optimal combination to get your desired result is what gets shit done in a reasonable time frame. Unlike some shops he also moves reasonably quickly (the sooner ya turn out da work the sooner ya get paid) rather than letting shit rot on the bench. Investing in the right equipment and locating among wealthy retirees with money for high end exotic projects was sensible too (and pays for playing with stuff while building even more experience).
The business aspects of bikery are interesting stuff. It's demanding and the actual profit per real hours work modest, but like being a stunt cock in a whorehouse has its own rewards.Last edited by farmall; 11-06-2021 at 6:28 AM.
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What happen to the Hookers ... ??
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Finally got the cam chest all buttoned up ...Last edited by Dragstews; 11-06-2021 at 4:42 PM.
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11-06-2021 #140Senior Member
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Best to rent (never buy anything even more high maintenance than a vintage motorbike) something new and Japanese.
Never go whoring hungry and never marry what you can pimp.
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