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    As I'll running a narrow belt I prefer it be exposed for easy maintenance and less heat.

    The enclosed Seaking cover could sell well in a version to fit Softail inner primaries since there are so many thousands of them (and that covers Shovel five speed upgrades using Softail trannies). FXST 94-06 and Dyna 91-05 use the same primary cover gasket and chain as the shaft center distance is the same so a cover that fits those would have a wide potential customer base (including me since while I wouldn't spend that much for a four speed the later box plus that style e-start compatible cover would be a sweet combo.

    It would be kool to see those sell and I'd have use for one elsewhere.

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    These might give you some ideas ...
    They are a bolt-on deal for the motorplate you have ...

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    I may not even need one depending on how I do the left mid control mount (which will bolt to a block added to the frame to offer some protection to the drivetrain).

    With the gearbox located to the engine now is good as any to contemplate wheel sizes. 18" look good but don't have great tire availability so I'll mock up a 19 to see how that looks as it's worked out tidily for others. For grins if ya have a (random, ugly is fine) 19" spoked wheel with tire to hang off the rear frame the group can see how that looks.

    I won't be quite ready to choose the final wheel and fork setups until I've a rideable mockup or an attack of inspiration. Tentative plan is bolt on a leftover 21"/16"/39mm combo left over from my 1994 FXLR to mock up the rear brake and spacers.

    Who make the best current shouldered alloy rims? Excel or Borrani I've not fondled new ones in ages.
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    ... Borrani ...

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    drag, seem to remember you or your customer had a bike (early sportster?) and I seem to remember it looked like the aluminum rims were chromed and not polished aluminum. If this was the case just wondering what the cost was to chrome ( yes I hear it now, horrible idea, LOL) the rim? Just curious.

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    Think that was my Vegas Buddy (Ross) that had the 68 CH ...
    Brown's did the chrome right before they closed ...
    He sold that bike at Mecums in Vegas ... Got "BIG BUCKS" for it ... Think it went for $16,000

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    That's a Borrani ...

    Notice the Chopped down (TT) oil tank ...
    Trans been raised up 1-1/4" in frame ..

    ... /// https://youtu.be/IRyJqyJ1sho \\\ ...

    Gas tanks are WLR ...
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    VL fork. lee suicide pedal, whole thing is very nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatman View Post
    VL fork. lee suicide pedal, whole thing is very nice

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    Got a wild motor under that cover to go in it ...

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    Old Borranis and Excels are fine but I'm curious about current manufacture rather than polishing out old rims.

    For those wanting chrome but hating plating failures, stainless rims are popular in the Britbike world. I've not needed a set so no personal chance to explore new stainless yet.

    I'll likely go with a ribbed stainless narrow-ish rear fender to escape painting one more delicate scratch-prone part.

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    On my old Rust Bucket ...
    Going to fatten up the fenders a bit ...





    No more rooster tails in the rain .... At least that's the idea behind all this work ...
    (Might keep the road rocks off the paint too.)

    Front fenders is also on the "FAT" list ...



    Dang ... That's a lot of work ...!!

    Now for the hard part of the job ...

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    Since da fenders will be off and there is nothing like a duallie for towing this could be an opportune time for a DRW conversion. I particularly like duals for towing because eight sidewalls is considerably stiffer than four. If ya don't want to buy tires right away the pickup truck world abounds in spacers. They'd certainly hook up that tasty drivetrain.

    A narrow aluminum liftgate would be gloriously handy for moving stuff (I have a full width steel Tommy Gate on my F150 and if a narrow style shows up I'll grab one for muh Chevy). Before I had a liftgate I didn't think about them much but after mounting one found out they're jaw-droppingly handy and simple as a rock. They mount with four bolts so ya could do custom mounts in yer sleep. You can extend them (many use folding extensions to not block the rear view) making motorcycle retrieval very, very low effort. (Stock width fits stock Sporty-sized bikes. and the design lends itself to narrowing wide, common gates to custom width. Worth doing on at least a work truck but they're addictive and none of us is getting younger.
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    Hummmm .. Duallie Huh ..??

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    That's a thought ...

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    I can only get so erect... ^

    The extra wheel weight is nice for traction with hefty engines and lightweight old style truck beds, there not being much weight on normal rears. Many owners place a sheet of steel in work truck beds to protect them but that also improves unloaded weight distribution. Healthy steel bed wall liners would keep cargo or perhaps a stray scoot from denting the bed from the inside out.

    That engine could easily smoke any (reasonably normal) SRW tire.

    I like that project because the specs are "strong but daily driver robustness level and depending on how many user choices you want that truck do give you it could fuck, do housework and pick up groceries while dragging home your future CNC milling center, 3D metal printing outfit, dry ice blaster and 20HP compressor for the BEV (Binder Electric Vehicle) build (now ya have solar so fuel would be cheep).

    Crawl ratio is whatever ya want with electrics (full torque at zero RPM basically) so a thrifty Binder could take advantage of yer solar power.

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3964699016957801

    I sent a thread link to my bro who is building a turbo'ed 6.0/4L80E for a (hard to find intact these days) 1980s C-30 single cab DRW longbed I gave him and of course he likes yer transmission mods. I'm letting him go first then I'll convert my crew cab wrecker.
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    Those old binders were really underrated on the capacities...My old 52 was more in the 3/4-1 ton range than the advertised 1/2 ton. Unbelievably stiff.

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    Just fuck! That's all I got.

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    Those old binders were really underrated on the capacities...My old 52 was more in the 3/4-1 ton range than the advertised 1/2 ton. Unbelievably stiff.
    Out of the box many came with medium duty engines and gearboxes. Loadstar 1600 and similar from school buses also drop into most of them. International did some interesting stuff like their Scout four cylinders that IIRC used a V8 head. Not fast but near indestructible.

    They made trucks when men were men and sheep were nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post


    I sent a thread link to my bro who is building a turbo'ed 6.0/4L80E for a (hard to find intact these days) 1980s C-30 single cab DRW longbed I gave him and of course he likes yer transmission mods..
    Since he will be scouting the yards for a tranny to build ...
    Tell him to stay away from the early 4L80's (1991-95) ... Those had problems with internal lubrication ..
    Best years for the 4L80E is 1999-up due to factory up-grades on some internal parts ..

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    We're hunting later ones since we're gunning for them attached to 6.0s and harvesting the engine/transmission harnesses. I'd mostly completed a towable test stand he's finishing up for his build (I'll post pics of course).

    Salvage yard and crush cycles are interesting. For example the '73-'87 are vanishing with most good ones consumed and the later gens are fading with collectors intercepting them before many scrappers. 2000s LS donors in SUV and van form are plentiful now but that will quickly fade too so best to grab what ya can including spares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post

    Salvage yard and crush cycles are interesting.

    Ain't that a fact ...

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    I found my truck's future trans in this 2000 Chevy 3/4 ton Van ..

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    We most recently raped a van just like that and from then on we'll cut the frames for speed since van pulls otherwise suck. Our van had a Hydroboost we also harvested since they work so nicely and don't depend on engine vacuum. The seat will become my next computer chair (seats tend to be far better designed and built than furniture).

    When we pulled the drivetrain I found a loose power cable to the fuse box. All fluids were perfect and the drivetrain showed signs of recent replacement so someone may have gotten pissed off and scrapped it for that. My bro is of course delighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post


    The seat will become my next computer chair (seats tend to be far better designed and built than furniture).
    I hear dat .. !!

    The og bench seat that was in my Binder was murder on my back. Did some digging and came up with buckets out of a full size 1996 Chevy truck ...They had the lumbar air bag in em, did a bit more digging and found 6-way power for both sides ...

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    Dang Ol' Binder is rapidly becoming a freaken junkyard refugee ... Lol

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