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  • thecarfarmer
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 191

    #31
    Originally posted by Dragstews
    You may be dealing with hi-wear on the main-shaft and fourth gear inner bushing....

    Try rocking the sprocket with two screw drivers or pry bars....



    This will give ya an idea of how much the bushing/bearing is worn ...
    Holy crap!

    that's sprocket was bouncing around and wobbling like a fat drunk on a skateboard.

    Damn near got seasick watching that...

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    • jcrubin
      Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 93

      #32
      Originally posted by Dragstews
      You may be dealing with hi-wear on the main-shaft and fourth gear inner bushing....

      Try rocking the sprocket with two screw drivers or pry bars....



      This will give ya an idea of how much the bushing/bearing is worn ...
      most helpful, I will test this tomorrow

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      • jcrubin
        Member
        • Dec 2018
        • 93

        #33
        Click this link for a video I made, there is deflection, as shown here, is this what you are referring to?


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        • Davestune
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 3292

          #34
          Originally posted by jcrubin
          Thoughts on this? I can't see going for 200$ for JIMS for something I use every five or so years....

          https://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davi...bBvo:rk:2:pf:0
          i have that tool you will be fine, mine is non jims allso

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          • Davestune
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 3292

            #35
            Originally posted by Tattooo
            Also it's only got 16,000 miles and the original paint.....
            yes but u have to love ugly, embrace ugly, and well look ugly haha
            she is a beauty

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            • Davestune
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 3292

              #36
              make sure to check the oil pump bushing in the case, and dont forget those rods need to be straight like some one said early

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              • jcrubin
                Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 93

                #37
                Originally posted by jcrubin
                Click this link for a video I made, there is deflection, as shown here, is this what you are referring to?


                https://i.imgur.com/q8GzeXn.mp4
                Click this link for a video I made, there is deflection, as shown here, is this what you are referring to?


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                • Dragstews
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 13739

                  #38
                  Looks a bit tried to me....

                  Wouldn't be a bad idea to fresh up the tranny with new bearings and bushings, most likely a new mainshaft will also be needed.
                  Might see some other parts that are on their last legs while yo're in the belly of the beast... Shift Clutches takes a whooping and the forks are hi-ware items...
                  Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                  • jcrubin
                    Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 93

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dragstews
                    Looks a bit tried to me....

                    Wouldn't be a bad idea to fresh up the tranny with new bearings and bushings, most likely a new mainshaft will also be needed.
                    Might see some other parts that are on their last legs while yo're in the belly of the beast... Shift Clutches takes a whooping and the forks are hi-ware items...
                    The tranny I can do in house....

                    Im gonna new a few extra specialized tools to do the complete job though. I hope to get the engine off to the machinist this weekend then I can put the tranny on the bench

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                    • jcrubin
                      Member
                      • Dec 2018
                      • 93

                      #40
                      With the bottom end at the machinist, I had time to pull the tranny


















                      Last edited by jcrubin; 02-24-2019, 9:11 PM.

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                      • jcrubin
                        Member
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 93

                        #41
                        Top shifter removed with no issues as expected, the sprocket bolt tool worked just as good as the Jims one at 1/3 the price




                        Only from a view of the exposed portion, that is a tired main shaft.... what could oil tight seal on that thing????????






                        Inner side of sprocket





                        Oil drained, started clutch nut loosened, mounted back on bike to do so....





                        What a mess, countershaft endplay is .017!!! This will mean new bushings, not just shims i bet. .012 is max, .005/6 is ideal.




                        Kicker gear bolt should be 30/40 lb/ft this is 0 with the lock washer holding it together, ill disassemble to see if this ate the bushing next.



                        And thats it for today......

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                        • jcrubin
                          Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 93

                          #42
                          I knew this was rusted on and required penetrating oil for several days,



                          Followed by several round if heating and cooling with propane, and light percussion in between. It came off.



                          Rusting and pitting on the mating surfaces, the source of the trouble.



                          All pieces removed from this assembly





                          Mainshaft bearing / countershaft retainer bracket.



                          Rust evident on race



                          Shift forks removed



                          Ready for countershaft gear extraction
                          Last edited by jcrubin; 03-24-2019, 9:58 PM.

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                          • SamHain
                            • Apr 2024

                            #43
                            Those mainshafts leak by design. Somebody came up with putting an Oring groove in the spacer, works pretty good when everything’s in order, tricky to install.

                            That along with cleaning up the main shaft and cutting a high gear bush at .001 clearance.

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                            • jcrubin
                              Member
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 93

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SamHain
                              Those mainshafts leak by design. Somebody came up with putting an Oring groove in the spacer, works pretty good when everything’s in order, tricky to install.

                              That along with cleaning up the main shaft and cutting a high gear bush at .001 clearance.

                              http://www.caimag.com/wordpress/2010...real-solution/
                              Standby, ill be posting photos including the mainshaft shortly, looks like gravel was used as transmission fluid

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                              • jcrubin
                                Member
                                • Dec 2018
                                • 93

                                #45
                                Countershaft removal



                                Countershaft, nothing major noticed



                                Counter Gear cluster removal



                                Ready for pack and storage

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