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  • StrawBerry
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 9

    Running on one cylinder

    Hey y'all!

    I've got a problem with my 1990 FXR.

    It starts up just fine, and runs great for about a mile, and then the front cylinder stops firing. If I shut it off and try to restart, it still doesn't fire; but if I leave it for a while itl run fine again. The exhast will smell like unburnt fuel.

    A little about the bike-
    Its a '90 FXR with a Zipper 80/80 kit. Spyke single fire coil, Zipper thunderbolt ignition, thunderheader 2-1, 40 3-phase charging system. (previous owner toured with a trailer), and wayyy too much chrome.

    I ran a line from my positive terminal to the positive posts on the coil, to test for shorts. Still no good.
    I replaced the coil. Still no good.

    I pulled the plugs and ran it, and it sparks to ground just fine.

    Do any of you have any idea what this might be? I'm mechanically inclined, but inexperienced.
    My only other thought is something causing the exhast valve not to seal?

    Thanks guys!
  • TriNortchopz
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 3256

    #2
    Sounds like a bad spark plug. Did you change them? Even just try swapping them - front to back. A plug may not fire properly under compression when it sparks okay testing it out of the engine. Try swapping plug wires next...But do just one change at a time so you can rule out what is not the problem.

    Links to components listed for reference:

    Zipper's 80/80 Evolution® Big Twin Kit: http://www.zippersperformance.com/zi...-kit-carb.html

    Spyke® Coils:


    Zipper's Thunderbolt Nosecone Ignition:
    Last edited by TriNortchopz; 02-02-2018, 10:50 PM. Reason: added website links
    If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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    • BadMonkeyMW
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 938

      #3
      As mentioned, replace that front plug right out of the gate. You could also have a plug wire breaking down after it heats up a bit, so try swapping front to rear and see if the problem migrates with it. Assuming you have the stock FXR coil mount setup, the plug wires are the same length.

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      • StrawBerry
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 9

        #4
        Fresh plugs. Same problem. Swapped wires. Same problem. Replaced ignition coil. Same problem.

        Anything else I should try before I order a new thunderbolt?

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        • TriNortchopz
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2017
          • 3256

          #5
          Originally posted by StrawBerry
          Fresh plugs. Same problem. Swapped wires. Same problem. Replaced ignition coil. Same problem.

          Anything else I should try before I order a new thunderbolt?
          Any chance the switches for the Thunderbolt got changed:
          "The Thunderbolt nosecone internal ignition is designed to fit all Evolution® Big Twin and Sportster® models, as well as ‘70-up Shovelhead and ‘71-up Iron XL’s. It is fully contained within the cam cover, replacing the externally mounted module on all models originally equipped with electronic ignitions. It features external switches that control single or dual fire operation, multi-spark function, advance curve selection and RPM limit."

          What about checking it with a laptop: "The Thunderbolt is also programmable with a laptop or standard PC. Software and an interface cable are required for connection between the tach port and the computer USB port (purchase separately)"

          See what this guy found on his '88 FXR: "UPDATE: Turned out to be the ignition module. The bolt that holds the timing cup on came loose and wiped out one of the sensors on the back of the IM. New cup, LOCTITE on the screw (!) and a Dyna2000i ignition and she runs great..." https://www.reddit.com/r/Harley/comm...er_not_firing/
          If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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          • tzienlee
            • Apr 2024

            #6
            Fit Point's & an Advance/Retard unit and ride it,.... ya cant beat points

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            • StrawBerry
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2017
              • 9

              #7
              I'll check the timing cup bolt and get me some points and update. Might be a while because of life things.

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              • Tattooo
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 12407

                #8
                Originally posted by tzienlee
                Fit Point's & an Advance/Retard unit and ride it,.... ya cant beat points
                You got that shit right... Runs better cranks much better especially with a kick bike...

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                • TriNortchopz
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 3256

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tzienlee
                  Fit Point's & an Advance/Retard unit and ride it,.... ya cant beat points
                  Yup, simple is good, no battery (or laptop) required. Been sparking plugs since 1910, thanks to Charles Kettering:
                  "The first reliable battery operated ignition was developed by the Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co. (Delco) and introduced in the 1910 Cadillac. This ignition was developed by Charles Kettering and was a wonder in its day. It consisted of a single coil, points (the switch), a capacitor and a distributor set up to allocate the spark from the ignition coil timed to the correct cylinder."
                  Last edited by TriNortchopz; 02-03-2018, 10:38 AM. Reason: added website link for further reference
                  If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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                  • Dragstews
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 13739

                    #10
                    1910 Cadillac Model 30 ran a dual ignition consisted of a new Delco four coil system and low tension magneto.

                    Did a little "Fact Check"
                    Last edited by Dragstews; 02-03-2018, 10:13 AM.
                    Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                    • 47str8leg
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1585

                      #11
                      I've been running on one cylinder my whole life...

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                      • TriNortchopz
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 3256

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 47str8leg
                        I've been running on one cylinder my whole life...
                        Well, my crank's bent, head's warped and when the timing is off, often backfire out the intake...
                        If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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