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  1. #1
    SamHain
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    Default More shovelhead clutch problems

    Alright, ratchet top, open belt, rivera pro. Had it working then I pulled the basket to replace the belt.
    Started it's life as an 80 fxs. Just built a ratchet top for it though, maybe 200 miles on it trouble free.

    Adjust the clutch it's fine, get through a couple gears fine, get to the stop sign at the end of the block and the lever is slack, slam gears back home and it's back in adjustment again. Cable was coming apart so I replaced it with high hopes, put the new one on to no avail.

    What the fuck should I be looking for?


    Edit: mainshaft is moving, the four screw retainer still allows room for endplay, still trying to figure out how to address the issue.
    Last edited by SamHain; 05-03-2017 at 9:00 PM.

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    I'm almost ready to put a pile of bikes in the driveway and set them aflame

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    Say ... What year Shovel ..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamHain View Post
    Alright, ratchet top, open belt, rivera pro. Had it working then I pulled the basket to replace the belt.

    Adjust the clutch it's fine, get through a couple gears fine, get to the stop sign at the end of the block and the lever is slack, slam gears back home and it's back in adjustment again. Cable was coming apart so I replaced it with high hopes, put the new one on to no avail.

    What the fuck should I be looking for?
    Someone tell the story of the "Million Dollar Dime" I don't know if it is still used when the Rivera clutch is installed.

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    It's losing adjustment like the basket or mainshaft is moving, but I can't come up with anything obvious.

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    "Million Dollar Dime" ... Year was 1975 and up ..

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    Alright got it in slack mode. Basket hasn't moved so neither has the mainshaft. I guess it's gotta be something with the pushrod seating/throwout.

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    Think it's time to pull the kick cover off and have a look at the throw-out bearing...

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    Yeah I was really trying to avoid it, that 10 pack of gaskets is coming in real handy after all, I'm about half way through them.
    It's the early style throwout, anything to look for beyond obviously being totally fucked?
    Seemed fine when I put it together and I didn't have any issues until I put this new belt on and tried to ride.

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    You can grease or vaseline the gasket you install and sometimes get more than one use from them.

    I'd inspect the pushrod too.

    I wouldn't readjust until I knew everything was kosher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post

    I'd inspect the pushrod too.

    I wouldn't readjust until I knew everything was kosher.
    Ditto ... The pushrods are made diff for both types of bearings...

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    Yeah the pushrod came with the trans, don't know if it's right but I know it was working just fine and dandy initially. I fuckin hate puttin shit together and it leaking, and every time I re use a gasket it's sure to.

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    Guess I'll start tearin it apart now, I knew it would end up here.....

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    Dang dat "farmall" .. It's all his fault ... Lol

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    Last edited by Dragstews; 04-28-2017 at 9:32 PM.

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    Aaaaaaannnnnnd. Nothing to report in the kicker cover.

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    Can you post a few photos of the clutch lever arm that's in the kick cover and bearing... ???

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    Your clutch finger looks to be not the right one for being used on the witch hat bearing ....



    This is the one that H-D used on the 41 to 74 models...

    VT No: 17-1509
    OEM No: 37070-39
    Clutch release finger.
    Fits:
    FL 1941-1974
    FX 1971-1974
    UL 1941-1948

    But as long as the pushrod doesn't stick out of the bearing I don't see a problem using what you have...

    Got another question about the fit of the bearing to the kicker clutch gear.... Is it super loose ??
    The 75 gear was made with a smaller O.D. than the 74 and back gears being the pushrod was being guided by a bushing in the mainshaft.... The early witch hat bearing was the guide for the pushrod therefor no bushing was used in the shaft...

    Another potential problem with swapping parts around with early and late is the kick cover on the later models not having room for the witch hat bearing to work well... They limit the throw greatly...
    Last edited by Dragstews; 04-28-2017 at 10:49 PM.

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    I wouldn't call it a precision fit, but the id/od are relatively close.

    Pushrod doesn't stick past the bearing, and this all was working without a hitch. Something went wrong the last time I had the basket off, had it off probably a dozen times without turmoil.
    Last edited by SamHain; 04-28-2017 at 10:50 PM.

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    Any signs of the pushrod being sawed on either end ..???

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