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10-28-2015 #21Jeez. The OP has been here since 2011. Does he have an awful reputation? You guys would know, I'm just a noob here. Instead of flaming him why not suggest a little proof if you're skeptical? If you truly are trying to help your bro who has served I'd be happy to throw you a few bones. With said proof of course. Fuck,..even if you could get a few "senior" 33ers to vouch for you that would suffice.
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10-28-2015 #22Senior Member
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If he originally signed up for the Montgomery GI bill, tell him NOT to change that to the Post 9/11 bill while he's outprocessing! If he keeps his MGIB, he will be able to use that until it runs out, then is able to apply for more months of the Post 9/11 bill (I got like 35 extra months). If he converts to the Post during outprocessing, he won't get the MGIB benefits at all.
And for schooling, like Farmall said, he can go to a trade school or whatever with that money. In fact, my local university offered a free welding class to vets that covered most processes including TIG, and ended with a cert.
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10-28-2015 #23Senior Member
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Maybe tell us what you need to finish said bike? Is it spare parts, wiring, etc? It is possible to barter with people here. Post some photos of project bike and what you need...
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10-28-2015 #24Senior Member
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Legit or not, I don't care if the guy is a vet or not- don't give me this "hes fighting for my freedon" George Bush bullshit. Im not that gullible and it sounds less legit when you use that phrase for a go fund me.
Try setting up an ebay account and posting a few classifieds on this site (I got several bites within minutes of parting out my sporty). You'll find plenty of people that are willing to help, but theres a difference between help and charity.
There are so many Vets in this country who are literally struggling to survive. thousands of them, Homelless, Hungry, etc.
two days ago I was taking a rest at a small park on the side of the road (hwy395) in the tiny little town of Lone Pine, CA.
& I spotted two
persons sitting on a park bench, Well the Guy was , His girlfriend was in Her wheelchair, They were Both in their 30's
and both were military Vets with injuries, Homeless, Hungry. Broke My heart, I gave Them some cash, & some granola bars
I had in my back pack & wished them luck, They were trying to get to LA. People like This need Help, & I don't have a problem
throwing a little love their way, But handing out hard earned money to fund somebodies chopper project, Hell with that!
Shit probably half the guys on chop cult could probably use some extra cash for bike parts!!
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10-29-2015 #25Senior Member
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yep. If I am going to help out a Vet, It will be for reasons other then paying for parts so they can build a motorcycle.
There are so many Vets in this country who are literally struggling to survive. thousands of them, Homelless, Hungry, etc.
two days ago I was taking a rest at a small park on the side of the road (hwy395) in the tiny little town of Lone Pine, CA.
& I spotted two
persons sitting on a park bench, Well the Guy was , His girlfriend was in Her wheelchair, They were Both in their 30's
and both were military Vets with injuries, Homeless, Hungry. Broke My heart, I gave Them some cash, & some granola bars
I had in my back pack & wished them luck, They were trying to get to LA. People like This need Help, & I don't have a problem
throwing a little love their way, But handing out hard earned money to fund somebodies chopper project, Hell with that!
Shit probably half the guys on chop cult could probably use some extra cash for bike parts!!
I do the same with a vet. That pan handles by my work. I buy him McDonald's or subway when I can. Like I said I understand if people don't want to help. Everyone has something going on that you or I don't know about. Just doing it for my brother cause he's done a lot for our family growing up and what he's done in the service. That's all
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I'm looking for a front wheel. 21 X 3, 3/4 bearing. Need a seat. Tires front and rear. Maybe a tank if I can't salvage the one I have now. Maybe a front fender. There other things I need. I'll post a pic of the said bike in a few
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Disabled vets who are crippled need to learn to engage the system. If they have TBI, PTS or other cognitive problems which interfere with that then that's an opportunity for others to help point them in the right direction.
There's usually no reason a wheelchair-bound vet shouldn't be getting 90-percent disabilty or more (disability calculations are not cumulative by percentage for each qualifying condition). Disability education and training funds are often a better deal than the G.I. Bill so doing the math is wise.
A major problem is that so many vets refuse to learn how to use what they earned. (It's like trying to get active duty troops to use their education funds even though it helps make rank. Humans are weird sometimes...)
I will always live near at least one large military base. It's MUCH easier to engage that way and the communities have generations of vets living locally.
When I hear from someone they are a vet and not getting what they need, I offer to help educate them but I can't pass out "initiative". Like anywhere else in life, ya gotta wanna.
Of course I ask a few casual questions to filter out the bullshitters. I ask to see a DD-214 or ID card then if not produced ask why they didn't have one. I'd not mind driving 'em to a VA office. Anyone vet or not can do that.
They were trying to get to LA.
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10-29-2015 #28Senior Member
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Disabled vets who are crippled need to learn to engage the system. If they have TBI, PTS or other cognitive problems which interfere with that then that's an opportunity for others to help point them in the right direction.
There's usually no reason a wheelchair-bound vet shouldn't be getting 90-percent disabilty or more (disability calculations are not cumulative by percentage for each qualifying condition). Disability education and training funds are often a better deal than the G.I. Bill so doing the math is wise.
A major problem is that so many vets refuse to learn how to use what they earned. (It's like trying to get active duty troops to use their education funds even though it helps make rank. Humans are weird sometimes...)
I will always live near at least one large military base. It's MUCH easier to engage that way and the communities have generations of vets living locally.
When I hear from someone they are a vet and not getting what they need, I offer to help educate them but I can't pass out "initiative". Like anywhere else in life, ya gotta wanna.
Of course I ask a few casual questions to filter out the bullshitters. I ask to see a DD-214 or ID card then if not produced ask why they didn't have one. I'd not mind driving 'em to a VA office. Anyone vet or not can do that.
Sad decision. Urban areas without convenient major active duty installations are NOT where to go. They are stunningly expensive to live in which evaporates what little money poor folks may accumulate. DAV and VFW chapters can be useful but again, ya gotta let them know you fucking exist!
Agreed. Where my firehouse we are considered a urban/indingent area and there are a lot of vets there on the streets and we hate it. We have dinner at the firehouse we make everything in bulk and we feed local vets as much as possible
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I can just tell from responses that you're probably a really nice guy, but people around here don't take well to this type of shit. Asking people for their hard earned money is not the way to reach your goal. You need to get crafty. This gofuckme shit is no different than begging on the streets. You are the bum, the hobo of the internet. Most people are going to roll the internet window up on your ass as soon as they see you coming. Only difference is that on here, people will tell you how they really feel, where on the street they're afraid you're going to throw fist fulls of shit on their cars. Bottom line is that everyone has something and someone in their lives that could use a chopper, some money, for whatever. I think you might need to pack up your shopping cart full of trash and your sign and move on to the next intersection.
edit: I'd probably donate some parts if you paid shipping.
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I can just tell from responses that you're probably a really nice guy, but people around here don't take well to this type of shit. Asking people for their hard earned money is not the way to reach your goal. You need to get crafty. This gofuckme shit is no different than begging on the streets. You are the bum, the hobo of the internet. Most people are going to roll the internet window up on your ass as soon as they see you coming. Only difference is that on here, people will tell you how they really feel, where on the street they're afraid you're going to throw fist fulls of shit on their cars. Bottom line is that everyone has something and someone in their lives that could use a chopper, some money, for whatever. I think you might need to pack up your shopping cart full of trash and your sign and move on to the next intersection.
edit: I'd probably donate some parts if you paid shipping.
Also I like your "fistful of shit" comment, made me laugh. Going to try some other things to drum up some money for this project. I'll prob sell some posters from the gysey run/Diablo and born free that I aquired throughout the years. Worst and last thing I will prob do is go sell my pistols that I have to finish this project for my brother. I'm hell bent on giving him this bike.
And thanks for the offer on the parts. I may take you up in it
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FYI the link doesn't work.
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10-29-2015 #33Member
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I noticed that this wasn't well received on here which is surprising because some of the 33'ers I meet at past years gypsy run and true run to the thumb were super standup dudes. Had to try you know. I didn't want to go the gofundme route but a brother from the firehouse suggested it may help out.
Also I like your "fistful of shit" comment, made me laugh. Going to try some other things to drum up some money for this project. I'll prob sell some posters from the gysey run/Diablo and born free that I aquired throughout the years. Worst and last thing I will prob do is go sell my pistols that I have to finish this project for my brother. I'm hell bent on giving him this bike.
And thanks for the offer on the parts. I may take you up in it
Please do, I have shovelhead, fxr, and ironhead sporty parts that I'd be willing to donate. I can even arrange shipping and just show you a receipt. Let me know, I'll help if you provide somewhat convincing proof that this is indeed a project for a returning soldier and soon to be vet.
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Please do, I have shovelhead, fxr, and ironhead sporty parts that I'd be willing to donate. I can even arrange shipping and just show you a receipt. Let me know, I'll help if you provide somewhat convincing proof that this is indeed a project for a returning soldier and soon to be vet.
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10-29-2015 #35
Before you go off selling everything you own try just cleaning out peoples gutters. It's easy work just everyone hates doing it. I have buddies at work that'll do it. Usually $40-100 depending on the size of the house and they make out pretty good with it and most of the time it won't take that long if you have a leaf blower. The one guy was saying he made around $3,500 last year from it. Just a suggestion I don't know how much free time you have but it's a thought instead of getting rid of stuff. Good luck though.
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What kind of tank are you looking for?
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What is bringing out the bad response (from me for sure) is that you are asking for donations for a friend and no names are given anywhere, no pictures, nothing. We have had plenty of scammers come through here with similar stories and later found out it was all a ruse.
Post some pictures of your family on the gofundme, a picture of your friend would help alot.
the big thing for me when people are asking for money for motorcycles is that its a luxury, if you arent sleeping on the street and have food every now and then having a motorcycle isnt going to improve your situation (some will argue that it can help with transportation to work, get a fucking bicycle).
So right now you expect people to give money to a person/cause with no real backstory of proof or reality. People are saying about donating parts which is cool, but for all I know you are just going to wait a bit and sell it.
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10-30-2015 #38
OP I mean no offense, however, this REEKS of a SCAM. We've seen this shit on several occasions, and this really is no different than any of the other scams that have popped through here. Maybe yer bro is a Vet, kool bro, use the information in this thread to get him whatever help he may require. In the interim, you could sell shit in the classifieds, Craigslist/Ebay, donate blood, stand on the corner with a sign, do whatever the fuck you gotta do, but don't expect me (or many others) to send a dime, even if you post pics of him, your family, and his DD-214. Vet's can be just as shady as the next motherfucker, I used to know a Vet who was a Drunkard,Heroin addict that supported his $100 day heroin habit by selling (doctored)Inspection Stickers, Tag Stickers, And Insurance forms(typed on the typewriter in his trunk) to people who couldn't afford to fix their car. Is that legal?, fuck no, thats why he was a shady motherfucker! He's dead and gone, but his Son is following in his footsteps, its sad really. Just because someone is a Vet doesn't mean a lot to me, for all I know, they're just another drunkard, heroin addict. I've been down for a month(and will likely be down for another month or two) with a broken wrist, I can't go to work, which means no income , which means little food, gas, & smokes, you don't see me asking nobody fer nuthin, nor will you. Although , if I were to ask, who do you think folks would be more willing to help out, someone who needs motorcycle parts , or someone who needs food/gas? Motorcycles are a Luxury item,...food shouldn't be! Go tha fuck on with that gofundme bullshit.
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10-30-2015 #39Senior Member
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yep. If I am going to help out a Vet, It will be for reasons other then paying for parts so they can build a motorcycle.
There are so many Vets in this country who are literally struggling to survive. thousands of them, Homelless, Hungry, etc.
two days ago I was taking a rest at a small park on the side of the road (hwy395) in the tiny little town of Lone Pine, CA.
& I spotted two
persons sitting on a park bench, Well the Guy was , His girlfriend was in Her wheelchair, They were Both in their 30's
and both were military Vets with injuries, Homeless, Hungry. Broke My heart, I gave Them some cash, & some granola bars
I had in my back pack & wished them luck, They were trying to get to LA. People like This need Help, & I don't have a problem
throwing a little love their way, But handing out hard earned money to fund somebodies chopper project, Hell with that!
Shit probably half the guys on chop cult could probably use some extra cash for bike parts!!
If other 33ers are desperate enough for a hand out, they can state their case, ask then feel the wrath : ) Free country, right?
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Look, I'm a Veteran, I love our military.
but that shit isn't going to fly as an excuse...
but a go fund me for a bike? no way.
if it was Cancer, death in the family, maybe, that's when you ask for handouts... but a bike.... come on.
so he had done so much for you and your family.. GREAT.... but that doesn't at all make what your describing some emergency that qualifies begging strangers for money.
what happened to self respect?
to being proud enough to not be comfortable begging for money from strangers?
if your going to do it.. do it properly. Make yourself up a sign and head down to the corner in your community. if your going to beg internet strangers for money for something like this.. you might as well beg in your own town.
again,, this is comming from a VET.
the whole line about "he deserves to come home to a reward"..
no.. he deserves exactly what his enlistment contract promised him. Pay, shelter, and help with college and medical if he qualifies. and Farmall did a GREAT job of listing places he can seek assistance if need be.
why would he "deserve" a bike any more than every other service man that came home?
at very LEAST....
are you going to list on his go fund me
Both of your REAL names? or any real world information at all? i'll jump right to the point. there is absolutley nothing on that go fund me page to believe it is anything but a scam.Last edited by slickschoppers; 10-30-2015 at 11:36 AM.
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