No need to edit yourself man. Stand by your words if you're going to put them out there. The only time Show Class or Death Science have ever been directly associated with and responsible for any form of benefit was our friend Wesley and I'd love to see you try to bad mouth us to him. We take care of our own and believe it or not, as previously stated by someone else, we are not here to nor are we capable of policing what happens at every fucking event we've ever donated a few magazines to. If you're under the impression that we haven't had conversations with Dustin & Nate regarding this then you're fucking crazy and dumber than your post makes you seem. There's more to this story than these 3 instagram screenshots are showing. Lastly, if you don't like our product or what we do that's fine but don't try and publicly call us crooks or accuse us of taking advantage of our friends.
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Wow. All I can say is wow. Things must be different in his neck of the woods. Around here he would have his head turned into a canoe. Hell we get in fist fights over who forgot to get beer; I can't even imagine what would happen if he pulled that shit around here. So, what's the next course of action? How can I help remedy this shit?
Has Munich been called yet?Comment
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No need to edit yourself man. Stand by your words if you're going to put them out there. The only time Show Class or Death Science have ever been directly associated with and responsible for any form of benefit was our friend Wesley and I'd love to see you try to bad mouth us to him. We take care of our own and believe it or not, as previously stated by someone else, we are not here to nor are we capable of policing what happens at every fucking event we've ever donated a few magazines to. If you're under the impression that we haven't had conversations with Dustin & Nate regarding this then you're fucking crazy and dumber than your post makes you seem. There's more to this story than these 3 instagram screenshots are showing. Lastly, if you don't like our product or what we do that's fine but don't try and publicly call us crooks or accuse us of taking advantage of our friends.Comment
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No need to edit yourself man. Stand by your words if you're going to put them out there. The only time Show Class or Death Science have ever been directly associated with and responsible for any form of benefit was our friend Wesley and I'd love to see you try to bad mouth us to him. We take care of our own and believe it or not, as previously stated by someone else, we are not here to nor are we capable of policing what happens at every fucking event we've ever donated a few magazines to. If you're under the impression that we haven't had conversations with Dustin & Nate regarding this then you're fucking crazy and dumber than your post makes you seem. There's more to this story than these 3 instagram screenshots are showing. Lastly, if you don't like our product or what we do that's fine but don't try and publicly call us crooks or accuse us of taking advantage of our friends.
And if there's more to the story than what's been posted, by all means, feel free to clarify it all for us. The whole point of this thread is to get questions answered. If you're in the know about it, then lay it out for all us normies, because this isn't some low-key event to be kept under wraps. It has already blown up, it's on the table, and it can't simply be swept under the rug. Fucking bummer, maybe, but now too many people are asking too many questions.
The message that was posted from Nate trying to relieve show class from any and all culpability regarding how this situation was and is being handled seemed completely fucking frantic. The point here is that guy is sick. Your homie here put together a fundraiser that raised a decent chunk of cash for a guy who desperately needed the relief. He then used the money on "loan" to build a bike, that he's now riding to born free, while the guy for whom the money was originally raised has only received what he was given by people who DIDN'T organize the event.
Now, if I have any of this story or any of the minute details here twisted, BY ALL MEANS, STRAIGHTEN THEM THE FUCK OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT, FELLAS.
If it were ME and he were MY homie and we were publicly well associated with one another (Like, we were homies enough to feature each other's bikes in our magazines and put each other's faces on our fucking t-shirts), I wouldn't be sitting here drafting aggro posts on the internet trying to shirk involvement with my scumbag friend. I'd say, "Yeah, he's our homie. No, we're not associated with this seemingly bad beef, and we're doing our best to sort it out accordingly. Please bear with us while we figure this mess out."
Like it or not, you guys are public figures in this scene. Your homie is throwing shade on every single one of you right now, and as far as we -- WHO AREN'T JUST RANDOM BROS FROM THE INTERNET, BUT SUBSCRIBERS TO, AND SUPPORTERS OF, YOUR PUBLICATION -- are concerned, we're all a little fucked up by how you're handling it. It's not up to you to tell us to go fuck ourselves because we don't know the whole "story." Sometimes it's best to set the record straight, even if one of your homies has to look like a piece of shit over it. If that's the case here, keep better company.Comment
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Wow. All I can say is wow. Things must be different in his neck of the woods. Around here he would have his head turned into a canoe. Hell we get in fist fights over who forgot to get beer; I can't even imagine what would happen if he pulled that shit around here. So, what's the next course of action? How can I help remedy this shit?
Has Munich been called yet?
Nate just joined...
He's gonna tell us all to chill...
And we will...
Hopefully things like this help him get whole...
By the instant Insta traffic, I assume some of this bloke's bros think digging for dirt on me will have a profound effect on my actions...
Good luckLast edited by MadRiverMoCo; 06-23-2015, 4:48 PM.Comment
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I was going to post a meme on IG, but my wife has the one phone we have and she is working late. I think I'll play legos with my sons and work on my stainless steel trident sissy bar into the night instead. It fires me up when the snakes get to ride to BF but a lot the honest folks remain from going as a result of not stooping so low and living within their means. Fuck this guy, I hope people swing at his ass and heckle him for being a genuine piece of shit. I bet all that will happen is a lot of talk and him crying or some stupid shit, have fun you fucking sack of shit. I almost have to respect real club life sometimes over the "image" guys cause I could not see this happening with them.Comment
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Yeah, but you and your homies obviously like him enough to put his mug on your t-shirts, so I'd say he's more than just an acquaintance loosely associated with you and your crew? Also, show some fucking class in your dealings with Punkskalar -- you've probably featured his products or builds in your fucking magazine, for christ's sake.
And if there's more to the story than what's been posted, by all means, feel free to clarify it all for us. The whole point of this thread is to get questions answered. If you're in the know about it, then lay it out for all us normies, because this isn't some low-key event to be kept under wraps. It has already blown up, it's on the table, and it can't simply be swept under the rug. Fucking bummer, maybe, but now too many people are asking too many questions.
The message that was posted from Nate trying to relieve show class from any and all culpability regarding how this situation was and is being handled seemed completely fucking frantic. The point here is that guy is sick. Your homie here put together a fundraiser that raised a decent chunk of cash for a guy who desperately needed the relief. He then used the money on "loan" to build a bike, that he's now riding to born free, while the guy for whom the money was originally raised has only received what he was given by people who DIDN'T organize the event.
Now, if I have any of this story or any of the minute details here twisted, BY ALL MEANS, STRAIGHTEN THEM THE FUCK OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT, FELLAS.
If it were ME and he were MY homie and we were publicly well associated with one another (Like, we were homies enough to feature each other's bikes in our magazines and put each other's faces on our fucking t-shirts), I wouldn't be sitting here drafting aggro posts on the internet trying to shirk involvement with my scumbag friend. I'd say, "Yeah, he's our homie. No, we're not associated with this seemingly bad beef, and we're doing our best to sort it out accordingly. Please bear with us while we figure this mess out."
Like it or not, you guys are public figures in this scene. Your homie is throwing shade on every single one of you right now, and as far as we -- WHO AREN'T JUST RANDOM BROS FROM THE INTERNET, BUT SUBSCRIBERS TO, AND SUPPORTERS OF, YOUR PUBLICATION -- are concerned, we're all a little fucked up by how you're handling it. It's not up to you to tell us to go fuck ourselves because we don't know the whole "story." Sometimes it's best to set the record straight, even if one of your homies has to look like a piece of shit over it. If that's the case here, keep better company.
I was "aggro" to the previous member because in a thinly veiled and personally insulting "correct me if I'm wrong" statement he publicly accused us of being crooks - which we are not - and he has subsequently apologized for.
I am not here to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to make sure our name doesn't get dragged out for no reason. As I stated, we're doing our best to figure out what to do moving forward.Comment
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Nate has requested to me as well as publicly that none of this be handled by anyone besides between he & Dustin. We and he perhaps should have made that more explicitly clear. We can't make all things that happen go away over night and we are making moves to make our involvement or lack there of be more clear. If Nate's post seems "frantic" it's because you don't know Nate. I've never seen him use punctuation in my life and he has a nasty habit of misspelling almost everything. He posted that because he saw this thread and tried to post in here but his CC account is awaiting approval.
I was "aggro" to the previous member because in a thinly veiled and personally insulting "correct me if I'm wrong" statement he publicly accused us of being crooks - which we are not - and he has subsequently apologized for.
I am not here to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to make sure our name doesn't get dragged out for no reason. As I stated, we're doing our best to figure out what to do moving forward.
2. Distance yourself
3. Watch the fireworks
But wtf should I know.Comment
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I love that shit on instagram, ' You don't know the whole story'...motherfucker if I was accused of some grimy ass shit the whole story would be laid out with a quicknessComment
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Nate has requested to me as well as publicly that none of this be handled by anyone besides between he & Dustin. We and he perhaps should have made that more explicitly clear. We can't make all things that happen go away over night and we are making moves to make our involvement or lack there of be more clear. If Nate's post seems "frantic" it's because you don't know Nate. I've never seen him use punctuation in my life and he has a nasty habit of misspelling almost everything. He posted that because he saw this thread and tried to post in here but his CC account is awaiting approval.
I was "aggro" to the previous member because in a thinly veiled and personally insulting "correct me if I'm wrong" statement he publicly accused us of being crooks - which we are not - and he has subsequently apologized for.
I am not here to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to make sure our name doesn't get dragged out for no reason. As I stated, we're doing our best to figure out what to do moving forward.Comment
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FatChibs, I couldn't agree with you more. And yet, this guy is supposedly a big deal amongst the Death Science crew, a group that pride themselves on their "authentic unapologetic chopper cred." You would think that they, of all people, would have stepped up and sorted this out and made sure he did the right thing. Instead, they have allowed him to steal the money to go on a vacation, and expose all of them as poser pussies. If a guy in my unit pulled something like this on one of our brothers, he would be eating out a straw before anyone would allow him to air this kind of laundry to the world.Comment
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I want to clear some things up now that I can post to this thread. Showclass should not be tied with this situation in anyway shape or form nor should chopcult or anyone but Dustin. When I originally posted what I posted to my IG it was for the sponsors and people who donated. I left names out for a reason now the cats out if the bag but I kinda expected it. Now I believe what has happened is wrong and I stand by it to my death it's really a black and white situation and I didn't post it to be an internet troll but it needed to be put out there morally. But what I'm not morally ok with is people posting his route his phone number girlfriend etc. Its not ok when those people weren't a part of it in any way shape or form. Blast him on the Internet shun him or whatever I don't give a fuck he deserves that but threats and the level it has come to is not ok leave that shit to the people involved please and thank you!
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I want to clear some things up now that I can post to this thread. Showclass should not be tied with this situation in anyway shape or form nor should chopcult or anyone but Dustin. When I originally posted what I posted to my IG it was for the sponsors and people who donated. I left names out for a reason now the cats out if the bag but I kinda expected it. Now I believe what has happened is wrong and I stand by it to my death it's really a black and white situation and I didn't post it to be an internet troll but it needed to be put out there morally. But what I'm not morally ok with is people posting his route his phone number girlfriend etc. Its not ok when those people weren't a part of it in any way shape or form. Blast him on the Internet shun him or whatever I don't give a fuck he deserves that but threats and the level it has come to is not ok leave that shit to the people involved please and thank you!
Nate dolt
So as long as people don't get crazy, most relevant stuff can stay.
I understand this situation sucks, but it did end up on a public social media page read: Instagram.
Either way. Good luck.Comment
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After following this all day because quite frankly, it's Internet drama and I can't help but watch MadRiver at work, I'm fucking done with it. Moving on. Nobody fucking cares when shit like this happens. "Community" whatever.
I don't know you Nate and I genuinely hope you are on the path to getting healthy.
But you did put that out there on a public forum. And yes the whole story isn't out there. But what is, is pretty bad.
And while this basically should only involve you and him, I can't blame people for taking this shit personally and lashing out.
Nobody I know would want to associate with someone like that.
Holy shit!! Where am I?
Dammit, I gotta goComment
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