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    Default my long springer has severe flop best way to remedy

    22 over been a bike since 70s just has flop hard to ride thnks

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberonewing View Post
    22 over been a bike since 70s just has flop hard to ride thnks
    haha I believe there will be always flop. but you can always rake the neck more

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    ask sugarbear, if anyone on the planet would know about a long springer it would be him

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    Proper trail is supposed to eliminate flop. Measure your trail and post pics of your setup.

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    Tighten up your neck bearings....

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ID:	52612 my other choppers got flop but this one flops you cant control it //ive asked sugar on other bikes if its not his stuff really dont care ck my pic just bought badass but steers hard

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    Flop is caused by the rake angle that is severe enough that the axle is higher when centered than when turned causing the weight of the bike to push the wheel further to the side when you turn more than just a little. There are 3 common cures are. Narrow the steering stops until it doesn't turn enough to flop. If you run a springer the Sugar Bear style rockers drop the center of steering rotation enough to lighten or stop flop. Or reduce the rake. Steering stops that are spring loaded will work also but are very hard to make attractive.
    Dusty

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    Here is an example of spring loaded steering steering stops not much more attractive than a chain with a clutch spring in it. But it did stop the flop and allow fairly tight turns and wasn't a night mare in a parking lot. The struts are the tailgate gas springs for a Jeep Cherokee.

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    Build a set of rockers to get the trail closer. Had the same problem on an 18 over I had with stock style rockers. Built a set of Sugar style rockers after a lot of measuring and solved the problem

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    Interesting, good solution.

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    thnks for help dusty// 70schop // im going to make some sugar bear rokers like you did

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    Your bike sits pretty level now so you won't be able to put as much, if any, drop in your rockers as I did. You'll need to keep the trunions and axle holes fairly level, just find an artistic way to move the axle forward. I used 1/2" plate for mine and didn't have any side flex under load. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberonewing View Post
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ID:	52612 my other choppers got flop but this one flops you cant control it //ive asked sugar on other bikes if its not his stuff really dont care ck my pic just bought badass but steers hard
    The bike looks great. Measure and post your trail. I'm curious.

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    your saying extend axle forward i just dropped the baker i shortened up steer stop was going ok til a lo speed turn boom i got pushed over no control im 6ft 300 lbs didnt hurt nothing just pride

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberonewing View Post
    your saying extend axle forward i just dropped the baker i shortened up steer stop was going ok til a lo speed turn boom i got pushed over no control im 6ft 300 lbs didnt hurt nothing just pride
    You have long trail#'s. High speed, stable but crap at low speed. When you extend the axle forward, you will shorten the trail. I took mine from 8+ inches to about 2.75. I could handle and turn at low speed with one hand

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    i look at sugars rockers the axle way up high i called sugar he will make u new springer 3 grand wont sell no rockers i think the axle needs to go up n out /// i got a 30 over speringer here this to try ///got to be better than i got ///my existing one measures 22 over now //might help //changing from 19 to a 21 wont help much either

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    I'm guessing you could try the 30 and build rockers to suit your choice of front wheel. Then you could you see the drop style you like

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    mines 22 now 30 is 8 in longer i cant hide that much in a rocker u think ///more im thinkin maybe pay sugarbear for his knowledge n sckill

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    Just do the math and build new rockers.

    What measurements are you at for rake and trail now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronHead73 View Post
    Just do the math and build new rockers.

    What measurements are you at for rake and trail now?
    ^^^this^^^

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