How to convert your Evo chop to kickstart

[mariofoo]

So you are able to use electric and kick start?

[Sky]

I'm going to have to disagree with Tattoo on this one "point".
Points are great, but try finding a dual point set up for a Harley. (Dual points = single fire) (single set of points = dual fire) confusing terminology, I know.

Single fire saves the leg and the starter motor.
(No "wasted spark" pushing backwards)
So I recommend something like the Dyna-S-single-fire as an affordable and reliable kick friendly ignition. Even simpler than points and half the maintenance!
But you have to run a single fire coil.
Or two coils with dual plugged heads, but I digress.

If you are "stuck" with the inferior solenoid,-on-primary starter setup (4 and 5 speeds came this way)... A kicker kit is definitely your friend.

But yeah, the Softail denso starter setup don't need any help.

If you want to strip her down and save weight chopper style...
Ditch the starter, ditch the big batt and run an open primary.
Your gonna need to start it somehow.
I know, Maybe a kicker!

My '76 shovel (a low comp, mild cammed stroker) has exactly that. A Vulcan single fire ignition and a second hand, non branded, kicker cover on a five speed. Mainshaft extension and all.
I usually kick it, but if I'm feeling particularly lazy or in a great big hurry, I hit that button. (Feeler gauge on the solenoid trick)
Been rocking it that way for years.

[farmall]

Single fire has a hidden bonus. Since it's two coils in one package if one side fails the other (depending on failure) may remain intact and permit limping home.

It's also a bonus for the Britbike folks with aftermarket ignitions which fire wasted spark with any coil including stock.

[DirtySouth]

So you are able to use electric and kick start?

Yes you are !! I would advise staying away from the Ultima Kicker conversion. I say this from experience

[farmall]

What shit the bed on the Ultima?

[mariofoo]

Yes you are !! I would advise staying away from the Ultima Kicker conversion. I say this from experience

I was actually looking at the w&w one that @Sugarcubes suggested. Sadly they are out of stock and probably have been for a while. Can't seem to find it anywhere else either.

Guess I'll just save some money up for the baker f5k kit.

[kickstarter1340]

Yes you are !! I would advise staying away from the Ultima Kicker conversion. I say this from experience

What problems did you have with Ultima kicker kit? I found that a longer clutch cable would be needed and the clutch push rod needed to be longer. I thought it was well made but I couldn't find a phone number to call and the dealer I bought it from did not know the answer to either of these problems. I'm going to go with the W&W kit.

[Sky]

V-Twin has a few of their Sifton knock off kits in stock.
Don't know for how long.
SIFTON NO LONGER MAKES A FIVE SPEED KIKER KIT.
And that speaks to future parts availability...

I've installed the Sifton and the V-Twin units. The ones in daily service have no complaints.
The Ultima One looks pretty similar...
Have a used long nose style one my main ride for about ten years now. It takes four speed components and is still kickin' just fine.