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motorlou
01-03-2012, 1:52 AM
All righty guys. been working on a project and was looking for a way to lay some flake down without breaking the piggy bank. i wanted to try another method vs. mixing the flake in media. i saw the flake buster thread here and it got me to thinking. i remember seeing the thread about the home made "soda blaster" and i thought well hell why not flake? i already had an air nozzle in the shop but i didn't have the correct tips so i went down to lowes and bought the little kit that comes with a couple different ones for $2.99. i also bought a couple different pieces of clear plastic hose. one in 3/16" I.D.x12" long and one in 1/4" I.D. x 12" long (26 cents per ft. some one please restraint me!!!!). i started by trying out the 3/16" I.D. and found that it worked great so i didn't even try the 1/4". i will prolly even buy a smaller one, 1/8" I.D. for shits and giggles. you can pretty much shoot any flake out of this thing. i used microflake because that is what i was going to use in the fender. a few days ago i bought an airbrush kit so i had to buy a pressure regulator. got one at lowes for $14.99? you don't have to use a pressure regulator per say but at least a valve to control the amount of air coming into the air nozzle (not just the regulator on the compressor!). here is a short vid of the gun in action as well as a pictorial of the process. sorry guys, someone please embed the vid for me. thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjkSpPa9g0s

this is basically what the Lowes air nozzle tip kit brings for $2.99.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4431.jpg

this is the air nozzle i have in the shop but you can use anyone you want

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4432.jpg

the pressure regulator, don't have to use this one, just a valve which you can control airflow with (not just the one at the compressor!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4433.jpg

here is what the gun is supposed to look like assembled, just like the "soda blaster" (hey didn't i just post a thread recently called" plagiarism of sorts"?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4434.jpg

here is my priceless harbor freight detail gun and the almighty pancake compressor i use. it is all the gun i need. i have painted a hell of alot of bikes with these 2 badboys. the key is to use an inline moisture filter and filter the paint of course. cleaning the air nozzles and blowing them out goes along ways. i even go as far as cleaning and blowing them out in between coats!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4442.jpg

here are a couple of pics of the fender in primer and already base coated

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4441.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4447.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4448.jpg

my pixie dust......close your eyes and click your heels boys and girls!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4449.jpg

now then......to add flake to your already base coated work you have to spray the workpiece down with a good coat of clear. i am using limco clear and a "fast" activator because it has been kinda cool lately. the idea is to keep the clear wet until you can get the flake on the work piece. in the summer time i will switch over to a "slow" activator to keep the clear wet longer in the hot weather. you will need to have both the paint gun and the pixie duster ready to go since you will be directly shooting the work with flake after you shoot clear. when you initially regulate the air flow on the pixie duster, start with the pressure valve closed and then crack it open until you get the amount of dust you desire. after regulating the gun you will notice that the first blast will shoot out a good bit more dust than the following blasts so don't point the gun directly at the work piece. when you are ready to start point the gun away then bring it to the work piece after you have the flake flowing to your liking. once you have layed the flake down and you feel that there is not enough flake in one area because the clear dried and won't grab, just shoot some more clear and then lay down some more flake. i left some clear in my gun just incase. here are a couple pics of the fender shot. it is hard to appreciate the flake in these pics but trust me..........can you say "FLAKE!!!!!!!!" :killerjob:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4452.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4453.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4454.jpg

jamesgs4
01-03-2012, 3:37 AM
Nice thinking! looks great

AtomicAddiction
01-03-2012, 4:07 AM
Awesome!

If I missed something and this is a stupid question...forgive me but...

What is the container that holds the flake? Can you use any capped container (does it need a cap?) to hold the flake the tube goes in? Is the tube going down into the flake or is the flake just getting sucked up into the tube? I think I know the answer but I'm just trying to be sure.

Does these questions make sence or am I talking out my ass?

Thanks.

vnygra
01-03-2012, 8:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/DSCF4434.jpg



the clear hose would be set into the cup of flake, at least thats how the soda blaster works. seems like you could put a lid on it and just make a hole big enough to stick the hose through.

53rigid
01-03-2012, 8:35 AM
if you shoot the flake on top of the clear, how many coats of clear does it take to bury that flake then?

Deadweight
01-03-2012, 8:43 AM
if you shoot the flake on top of the clear, how many coats of clear does it take to bury that flake then?

As many as necessary. Not trying to be a smart ass.Just keep shootin' and working the clear till it's smooth as glass.

cros36
01-03-2012, 9:46 AM
thats a great idea man. are you doing it like this so you dont have to put the flake through the paint gun, clogging shit up? cause your already using the gun for the clear.

and i found this silhouette of how you used to do it......

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/13351706/2/stock-illustration-13351706-fairy-blowing-magic-pixie-dust.jpg

motorlou
01-03-2012, 10:26 AM
thats a great idea man. are you doing it like this so you dont have to put the flake through the paint gun, clogging shit up? cause your already using the gun for the clear.

and i found this silhouette of how you used to do it......

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/13351706/2/stock-illustration-13351706-fairy-blowing-magic-pixie-dust.jpg

trust me you don't want to see me squatting over like that butt naked chick and blowing pixie dust!!! ha ha ha. hey guys, i just took the container of flake, stuck the hose in it and palmed it. this ain't the "absolute", you just gotta do what works for you. i did it this way because even the micro flake clogs my tiny spray gun up. there is no way in hell i would be able to ever get this much flake on the fender doing it that way and not having to spay a million coats of clear. as far as how many coats it takes to smooth it out, this turned out fairly smooth after i shot the flake because it is micro flake, i'll be adding a couple more coats. if you use bigger flake of course, you will have to add several layers to knock down the edge.

TimB1640
01-03-2012, 10:42 AM
this should be in the greatest hits forum! that's some good shit!

gyro
01-03-2012, 12:43 PM
well done! Greatest hits.:clap for you:

RIPshitRIOT
01-03-2012, 3:38 PM
I wish I wasn't as impatient as a 6 year old snorting pixie stix and could actually paint worth a shit. This looks awesome.

Tito
01-03-2012, 4:13 PM
Thanks for sharing. That is a cool, simple idea.

motorlou
01-03-2012, 8:29 PM
hey guys don't want to sound like a broken record but i just wanted to post some better pics of the piece i did yesterday. i airbrushed it (my first time airbrushing!) layed down some pinstripe tape (cause my hand is shakier than an epileptic in full seizure, no way i could pinstripe for real!!) then i proceeded to add a few final coats of clear, turned out pretty cool...........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4456.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4457.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4459.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4464.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4465.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4466.jpg

vnygra
01-03-2012, 9:00 PM
Looks real good man.

kevin99
01-03-2012, 10:18 PM
fuck yeah! thats awesome good shit man.:cheersmate:

hotrodkid
01-03-2012, 11:31 PM
i flake my tins with fairy farts :p

motorlou
01-03-2012, 11:52 PM
i flake my tins with fairy farts :p

purple dust like your shirt on your avatar! ha ha ha

gyro
01-04-2012, 1:11 AM
fuck yeah man that looks really good.

hotrodkid
01-04-2012, 1:30 AM
purple dust like your shirt on your avatar! ha ha ha

yeah my cmera sucks balls everything black looks purple although if kutty made me a purple h/k shirt i would totaly wear it

TimB1640
01-04-2012, 4:01 AM
hey guys don't want to sound like a broken record but i just wanted to post some better pics of the piece i did yesterday. i airbrushed it (my first time airbrushing!) layed down some pinstripe tape (cause my hand is shakier than an epileptic in full seizure, no way i could pinstripe for real!!) then i proceeded to add a few final coats of clear, turned out pretty cool...........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4456.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4457.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4459.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4464.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4465.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4466.jpg

man that came out nice!

FlameThrowerCustoms
01-04-2012, 8:53 AM
That's really interesting stuff...I've never metal-flaked using anything besides my paint guns.

These pics are of a bike that I painted and shipped the tins back to him in Finland. The flake is Lil Daddy Roth "Warm Beer" .015" flake. I sprayed it through my well-cleaned-out primer gun in order to: (a) take advantage of the larger spray tip and (b) so I would not get freakin' flake all through the next job that I clearcoated!

I just mix up a regular 2:1 reduction of HOK SG100 intercoat clear, dump in the flake, and keep "swirling" the gun around to keep the flake suspended in the clearcoat and not all settle right to the bottom of the paint cup!

This flake laid down pretty decent and I blieve I used either 2 or 3 separate 3-coat applications/wet-sandings of HOK UC35 Kosmic Klear to make it smooth as glass.

Just another option... and I have no idea whether the Monster Flake (.025") would flow through a primer gun because I've never tried it!

www.flamethrowercustoms.com

motorlou
01-04-2012, 10:26 AM
thats really nice paint flame thrower, i have shot flake through paintguns before but not with too much luck. usually my paintgun clogs up or i end up getting a run in the paint from having to shoot so many layers (i am very impatient!) with the pixie duster i get instant gratification with a ton of flake within minutes........that's just me though you know?

FlameThrowerCustoms
01-04-2012, 12:25 PM
Thanks... I am impatient regarding most things but when I step into my spray booth I need to step back and ramp up the patience levels! I've had very good luck using the method that I described, but it must be a spray gun with a large spray tip (which is why I use my primer gun) and I put quite a quantity of flake into the intercoat clear medium so I don't need to shoot too many coats. Using intercoat clear for the flake works good because even a heavy coat flashes within 10 minutes... which is good for not testing my patience.:)

www.flamethrowercustoms.com

satch
01-04-2012, 4:23 PM
i like this how to i googled this and saw a couple other people have built similar gun, maybe a little bit more permanent. has anyone eles tryed to make a flake buster? id like to see another design

motorlou
01-19-2012, 9:20 PM
hey guys don't want to sound like a broken record bringing this back up. at the beginning i said that i bought a 1/4" ID hose, and a 3/16 one also. the first time i used the 3/16" and it worked pretty good. today i had to shoot some more flake and tried a 1/8 ID.........wow that worked even better!! it gives you more control of the flake. anyhow the more i practice the better i get at controlling how much flake i want where. i guess the small venturi made for more precision.

TyroninFXR
03-28-2012, 4:31 AM
I gotta try this, loved the how to thread about the soda blaster.

nerdsports
03-28-2012, 7:29 AM
Thanks to this I'm taking a new direction with my tank.

MitchMotors
03-28-2012, 8:52 AM
i like this how to i googled this and saw a couple other people have built similar gun, maybe a little bit more permanent. has anyone eles tryed to make a flake buster? id like to see another design

looks a bit like a sandblasting gun

nerdsports
03-28-2012, 9:05 AM
looks a bit like a sandblasting gun

I imagine you could use nearly any media blasting gun for this.
http://www.harborfreight.com/gravity-feed-blaster-gun-93221.html

MitchMotors
03-29-2012, 5:14 AM
this thread should go right into the greatest hits

TyroninFXR
04-02-2012, 2:53 AM
<a href="http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/tyronin/?action=view&amp;current=diyflake.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/tyronin/diyflake.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
It worked
<a href="http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/tyronin/?action=view&amp;current=flakeonclear.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/tyronin/flakeonclear.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

JimmyBK
04-11-2012, 11:10 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7ykXYoHt4Yc/T4W6hGje0iI/AAAAAAAAAhA/wPhj-LMV-ZI/s1020/pixiduster-01.jpg

Would this work? The only air compressor I have access to is not near the only painting booth I have access to (different floors)

mrkil
04-11-2012, 1:18 PM
not sure if that will offer enough vacum pressure to suck up the flake and blow it out. it's worth a try if you have some extra flake

JimmyBK
04-11-2012, 1:56 PM
not sure if that will offer enough vacum pressure to suck up the flake and blow it out. it's worth a try if you have some extra flake
yeah thats what I am thinking. I'm planning to do some painting pretty soon, obviously, if it works I'll let you guys know, if not chances are I'll be carrying an air compressor across the building and down a flight some stairs.

mrkil
04-11-2012, 2:04 PM
you might want to look at pickin up an airbrush compressor since that is the same system that airbrushes use.

JimmyBK
04-11-2012, 3:50 PM
I dont do enough painting for it to be worth buying a whole airbrush setup, and the shop doesn't do any painting, their air compressor (60 gallon) is mainly for the lift, tires and lazy clean up. This project will be done with rattle cans.

Hooligan80
04-11-2012, 8:13 PM
I dont do enough painting for it to be worth buying a whole airbrush setup, and the shop doesn't do any painting, their air compressor (60 gallon) is mainly for the lift, tires and lazy clean up. This project will be done with rattle cans.

An air brush setup is pretty cheap.

TyroninFXR
05-12-2012, 12:42 AM
I think the dust off is genius in it's simpicity, I hope it works because that would rock.

trnrover
05-12-2012, 1:09 AM
The yard sale cigarette lighter compressor and that leftover charger cord from a 12 volt power wheel and an old freon jug has got me by on a ton of occasions.

bikerbear
05-20-2012, 12:23 PM
I use a Harbor Freight gun for flake. 1.8mm nozzle. Mix clear with flake and when im done,i throw gun in trash.Use my good Anest Iwata gun to cover flake with more clear. Only done it 3 times,but works great.I suppose you could clean the gun,but they are under 20 bucks,so F it.

Scouser
07-02-2012, 7:05 AM
Im going to give this a go, or is it better to mix the flake in the clear?

ironheadslim5
07-13-2012, 9:46 AM
Anybody know if using glitter from a craft store is the same as the more expensive metal flake? Seems to look the same but I wasn't sure if it would lay down differently or just flat out not work.

ARBY
07-13-2012, 3:08 PM
I use a Harbor Freight gun for flake. 1.8mm nozzle. Mix clear with flake and when im done,i throw gun in trash.Use my good Anest Iwata gun to cover flake with more clear. Only done it 3 times,but works great.I suppose you could clean the gun,but they are under 20 bucks,so F it.

Geez man, don't throw them out. Send it to me. I'll send ya 5 bux for shipping!

earz
07-30-2012, 2:30 PM
Anybody know if using glitter from a craft store is the same as the more expensive metal flake? Seems to look the same but I wasn't sure if it would lay down differently or just flat out not work.

Go to the craft store and buy some and try it. Glitter is pretty cheap and ones in a variety of sizes.

This DIY flake buster is genius. I've been away from CC for a bit and glad I stumbled back here. I've actually got a gun setup for soda blasting already so I just need to get me some flake on hand for my next paint project.

vpd66
08-09-2012, 7:59 AM
Go to the craft store and buy some and try it. Glitter is pretty cheap and ones in a variety of sizes.

This DIY flake buster is genius. I've been away from CC for a bit and glad I stumbled back here. I've actually got a gun setup for soda blasting already so I just need to get me some flake on hand for my next paint project.

I tried Hobby store glitter and it went on good and looked good, but would have took alot of clear to cover it. It doesn't seem to lay flat on the surface like the correct metal flake.

dubway5887
10-15-2013, 10:33 PM
Good god that's amazing for the way it was done... Not hating, I wish I had the talent to turn something out like that in my garage. Great work man


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motorlou
10-15-2013, 10:48 PM
Anybody know if using glitter from a craft store is the same as the more expensive metal flake? Seems to look the same but I wasn't sure if it would lay down differently or just flat out not work.


wow can't believe this thread is still alive.....damn i feel like i actually contributed something positive to society! ha ha ha. the flake i am using in the video was from a hobby store. i have shot all kinds of cheap ass glitter (whatever i can find). you do use alittle more clear knocking down the flake but not bad at all.

dubway5887
10-17-2013, 1:12 PM
I've actually got a poor man style to do this, I don't have any pics wish I did, same concept but if you don't have a compressor you can use the cans of compressed air depending on the flake size.


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RustDeamon
10-17-2013, 8:43 PM
Totally building one of these and breaking out the air brush. My paint job wil look 20X worse than your but hell I'll give it a shot

Gvermin
12-13-2013, 2:47 PM
Fuck I wish I would have seen this before I tried my flake job. Fuckin rad.

Maustarman
12-13-2013, 5:41 PM
Great job with the whole paint job..!

carbonslave
01-02-2014, 4:33 PM
can't wait to try this

ulysseskcmo
01-09-2014, 11:24 AM
:killerjob::killerjob::killerjob::killerjob: So damn good!!!
hey guys don't want to sound like a broken record but i just wanted to post some better pics of the piece i did yesterday. i airbrushed it (my first time airbrushing!) layed down some pinstripe tape (cause my hand is shakier than an epileptic in full seizure, no way i could pinstripe for real!!) then i proceeded to add a few final coats of clear, turned out pretty cool...........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4456.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4457.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4459.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4464.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4465.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/motolou/cb400%20x2/DSCF4466.jpg

phoko
06-12-2014, 6:27 PM
whoa....

sidewindersigns
06-19-2014, 11:58 AM
I tried Hobby store glitter and it went on good and looked good, but would have took alot of clear to cover it. It doesn't seem to lay flat on the surface like the correct metal flake.
One problem I know of with the hobby store glitter is that it isn't designed to be used outdoors and it fades pretty fast from the UV exposure. Wouldn't be an issue with silver, but the red won't last long.

dannyrds
07-04-2014, 6:45 PM
Where do you buy the flake?

88sportchop
08-18-2014, 6:32 PM
50767

Made one today :) awesome idea! I just used regular glitter... seems to have wokred alright, I'm going to try using a smaller "grit", the stuff I used was prettty big, but still had promising results.

I just read the couple above posts, haha, I guess I'll get some of the real stuff for when I spray my tank. But the glitter is alright for practicing!

pTc
07-12-2015, 6:38 PM
Finally got around to trying this. Mixed results but learned a bit. Coverage was pretty good! Glitter went everywhere and it was kinda tricky going from clear to <strike>queer</strike> pixie duster. I hate glitter now btw.


Attached a pic of the results. Now I am adding several coats of clear and sanding.
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