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H8TR's Outlaw Dyna

 

HHonestly, I don't know what to call these bikes. Obviously not choppers and God forbid someone call one a bobber. I'll settle for "Club Style" since the first ones I noticed were ridden by certain 1%er club members. Those early ones were FXR's, but have since evolved into Harley's venerable Dyna. Since the hit TV show Sons of Malarky came out it seems like the things are everywhere. In Daytona earlier this year, Roadside Marty had the only one that I noticed. Otherwise, it appeared that the trend hadn't taken off with the fervor that is has here in California. Since several guys I know have either sold off their choppers entirely or added a Club Style Dyna to their stable of bikes, I figured it would be good to look into the formula. Chop Cult member H8TR just dumped a fortune into his, and it looks the business.

 

The evolution of the Club Style bike is something I'll have to speculate on, I'm surely no expert on the subject and if you have science to share feel free to add comments at the bottom of this article. As I imagine it, law enforcement probably used modern vehicle code violations to help put an end to outlaws riding choppers. OK, maybe not an end, but riders had to feel the weight of new requirements; turn signals, helmets, baffled-pipes and all the things good choppers generally don't have. So while enthusiasts can get away with getting a fix-it ticket or a little harassment here and there, a real outlaw wants to avoid contact with the law as much as possible. I would imagine the same theory could be applied to the old bike thing–who wants to wait on the dude with the cranky magneto when some important shit is going down and you could just have a push-button and get the hell out of Dodge? Enter the FXR. I'm a nerd, not an outlaw, but I happen to love mine, and I know several other guys who do too. At the time, the FXR's frame, rubber-mounted engine and other Eric Buell designs were revolutionary and looked different enough from a regular HD that the Motor Company eventually quit making them entirely. But, on this platform the formula for a modern hot rod club bike was born. Fast, good handling, reliable and easily modified for more performance. Small fairings and other pro-street elements made their way onto a lot of FXR's in the 80's and 90's and it's no surprise that the best looking bits of the pro-street days continued onto the Dynas, though thankfully they are usually black and subdued rather than the garish paint from a couple decades ago.

 

So, what makes a "Club Style" bike these days? In broad strokes I'd say this is the list: Dyna FXDX with gauges intact, Thunderheader, performance mods, tall risers with low bars, fairing, steering stabilizer, seat with some kick in the back and as much black as possible. In theory, every modification must be rooted in something practical or performance-oriented, nothing superfluous – and therein lies the beauty of these bikes. Even the fantasy outlaw scenario of "I don't know, it was an all-black bike, dude had on an all-black full-face helmet" makes it possible raise hell with a certain amount of anonymity. I will reserve judgement on the riders of these bikes, surely some are legit badasses and some just like to play dress-up, but either way the machines built in this purposeful style are fast, fun and look tough as nails. 

 

I nailed down h8tr right after he got his bike back from Mackie up in Ventura. He made me ride it. He's a big guy, so who am I to say decline? I love railing around like a crackhead on my FXR but this Dyna will stomp my mostly stock 80" in a heartbeat. This particular Dyna sits a little high for me, but like I said, h8tr's a large dude and it fits him perfectly. The tall risers would take some getting used to for me, and honestly, I don't get the point of these much. A lower bar seems more performance oriented and fits through tight traffic easier. Is there a legit reason for the height? I get the tall risers and flat bars, with apes this size they would be wider and slip in the risers under heavy cornering. Other than one simple ergonomic complaint, this machine is glorious to ride. Full throttle runs will loft the tire easily and for a heavy bike the suspension and brakes feel up to the task. Over 90mph, the tail wags a bit, but h8tr's already got plans to get that dialed.

 

Bike name: The War Pig

 

Engine, year and make, model, modifications: 2005 Dyna FXDXI, 95" Dave Mackie Engineering Mega-sphere heads and pistons, ported and polished heads, Mackie 590 gear drive cams, Fueling cam plate, Fueling oil pump, Fueling beehive valve springs, compression release valves, 48mm throttle body, zippers backing plate and air filter assembly, TTS Mastertuner, ceramic coated Thunderheader, Primo Rivera Pro Clutch.  It's putting out 116 HP, 114 TQ.

 

Frame: Stock

 

Fork: 39mm hydraulic with Race Tech heavy duty springs and Gold Valve Emulators, adjustable for compression, damping and rebound. 

 

Tire/wheel size and style: Stock mags (19 front, 16 rear) powder coated black, Metzler 880's front and rear.

 

Favorite thing about this bike: It's reliable, it's fun, it starts when I want it to.

 

Next modification will be: Sputhe or True-track chassis stabilizer.

 

Other mods, accessories, cool parts, etc: Works Suspension dual rate rear shocks; Alth full foating rotors front and rear; over sized (13.5) rotors in the front.

 

I bought this bike after I sold my 1980 Shovel (see current issue of Greasy Kulture). I wanted something that would start and ride easily. My buddy, Mike D from Blotto Parts had an FXDX and loved it. So, I hunted around until I found a good base bike and went from there. It's a bike built for a purpose, a utility... beat it, thrash it, ride it hard and fast and whenever I want to. It's really fun to ride, it's loud and fast and does wheelies. Mike D sold his FXDX two days after I got this back from Dave Mackie, so now you'll see me cruising with a sexy red Ducati Hypermotard.  Kind of an odd pair, but it seems fitting.

 

Thanks to: 

Mike D - www.blottoparts.blogspot.com

Dave Mackie Engineering, ask for Monty - www.davemackie.com

And, of course my wife and kids for the patience and understanding.


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Commented on 6-17-2011 At 12:33 pm
 

This is how to put fun between your legs.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 12:41 pm
 

lol, for a second I thought my bike was being featured. I predict this story will generate the most hate filled replies of any so far. You know I love it though J.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 02:51 pm
 

Nice bike, a little to tuff looking for me but overall nice!

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 02:54 pm
 

I would ride the piss out of it man! Very stealthy and I now this fucker would run off leave most bikes on here!!


Great job!

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 03:02 pm
 

I like these bikes a lot. But the stock controls, skinny bars, and 12" risers just look a little strange to me. I'd probably think differently after riding this set-up. Haven't seen one in KC yet.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 03:33 pm
 

A bike built for a purpose. Nice. Built to thrash not pose.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 03:42 pm
 

the norm for bikes such as these is to keep as much of the stock stuff as possible..that way it's all easily serviceable at any dealership or indy shop in between towns or out of state. You have an issue with a sweet looking brembo or pm brake setup or levers or some crazy wired aftermarket switch housing 300 mi from home and Crazy Cooters H-D House in Podunk probably won't be able to help ya..he'll have a box of stock stuff though.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 04:40 pm
 

multi purpose killer(real shit son.)

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 04:41 pm
 

Good timely article. I ride a pretty much blacked out FXDB (Street Bob), it is nimble in traffic, has loads of power, and has drawn positive comments from everyone from old time baggers to lady joggers.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 04:51 pm
 

If i had to get a newer bike, this one would be on the list.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 05:37 pm
 

ive seen a couple guys ridin bikes just like this where i live. some gnarly bikes and even gnarlier dudes. when they say these things will pull up on one wheel, thats no lie. saw a guy the other day pull away from a group of crotch rockets like they were mopeds.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 06:00 pm
 

Belongs in everybody's garage, beside the quirky old handmade custom deathtrap. We'd have to redistribute the country's wealth to make it possible :-)
Making a lot of other good things possible at the same time. Like secure retirement, universal healthcare etc ;-)

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 06:05 pm
 

"Saw a guy the other day pull away from a group of crotch rockets like they were mopeds."

In that case they get a pass for possibly being no better looking than the 'rockets ;-)

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 06:58 pm
 

These are all over Hollywood and I like 'em a lot. If I had money for a second bike this would be fun as hell to minor mod, clip on new shit. I just wish the whole thing was a little lower, ya know? The back wheel looks like a dirtbike or something. But not hatin' here, the bike looks crazy fun and slick as a greasy weasel.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 07:28 pm
 

I respect the time and dmoney guys are putting into these bikes, but its a fad I just don't get. Is it cuz of Sons of Anarchy? I don't know, but "club bikes" seems to be a Cali fad that I'd be surprised to see it go East beyond San Berdo County line.

I like the look, but where I get totally lost is that guys are setting these up to "handle" then they put ridiuclasly high t-bars or 10" risers..... to each their own I guess (hell I ride and love Evo Softails, so who am I to say anything about anything).

What I want to see this trend evolve into is cafe Dynas, Sportbike influenced Dynas, etc. How about a Dyna with rear sets, clip ons, radial brakes, JMC swingarm, Ohlins suspension, Marchisini wheels..... now THAT is a trend I would follow.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 07:47 pm
 

This style may be popular now because of certain TV shows, but make no mistake, it was around long before and will most likely be around after. The great thing about this style is that it is all-purpose. Done right, they are untouchable in proper hands.

I saw a Dyna set up pretty similar at the local shop but with Excel rims, heavy spokes, chain drive, Ohlins shocks and to top it all off...a TC124". Probably the baddest Dyna I have ever seen. I believe it was the VP of a local club who rode it, and I was told he beats the living shit out of it on a regular basis.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 07:47 pm
 

CLUB STYLE?!?!?! REALY????? How about just calling it a Motorcycle? because really, it's what it is.

It's a nice bike, but nothing special. A bunch of bolt ons and out the door. If you really want to label it, just call it a "Stocker"

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 08:29 pm
 

Im not a huge fan of this look either but I can dig the purpose-built nature. I also don't get the enormous risers and jacked up rear suspension but I suppose that it's part of the deal.

I bet that this thing is a blast to ride with those motor mods. I mean, really, all Harleys should make at least 116hp in my opinion. I'd take it for a ride around town.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 08:42 pm
 

that rear fender is in orbit!

the bike looks setup like like one of those KTM Dakar Rally bikes. which isn't bad. put some knobs on that bitch.

Commented on 6-17-2011 At 09:11 pm
 

I loveR H8TR...
you gonna eat that man?
thanks

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 12:52 am
 

DickFitzwell is a pole-smokin' queer.

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 01:06 am
 

The Key words in this is "Purpose Built" I got talked into this setup 4 years ago or so from some guys in Santa Cruz. I don't like the club bike label, but from my understanding it's the clubs that 1st started setting these up this way so why not give them the credit. It's all about utility. At 1st it was hard getting used to the look until I got on it and realized it's not about the look. It's about making a HD ride and run the best it can. The look grows on you once you've ridden it.

Next steps on mine is to stiffen and raise the suspension another 1.5 or 2 inches. I'm 250lbs and need a little more room for curb hopping and a little more height for the corners to keep the exhaust from scraping.

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 01:19 am
 

So it goes fast, so do a lot of bikes . . . bland as batshit to look at. Club style? What club?

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 02:32 am
 

"A fresh styled FXR" would've been a much better title for this.

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 02:35 am
 

My FXR like the Dyna is a Sportster on Steroids.......

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 02:56 am
 

Sik ride H8ter

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 05:26 am
 

I grew up on the westcoast and have seen these style of bikes for years and yes the riders of them when I was young were club memebers. My dad is 70+ and has been riding all his life and I remember seeing these as a 10-15 year old boy riding dirt. The "show" has taken a cool bike and made it lame.Most have no clue what this bike is ment for ride hard, long, fast, and have it not break down. All the wannabe guys are now building them because they are a cool bike but when you talk to most they have no clue what the diffrence is between a Dyna and FXR let alone a pan, shovel, evo, and twin cam! If you ride a bike like this you need to know what you have cuz someone just may call you a SOA fag and expect you to know what you are riding and it best not be all about looks!

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 08:15 am
 

just got the same (stock) bike to start on over the next year or so... fits me much better than a flyrite sporty frame. i love how no matter what scene youre into and no matter how old you are, there will always be people who talk shit. its cool, those guys will stay lame. this featured bike rips, im sure its fun to ride....good on ya h8tr!

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 08:59 am
 

Evobuilder that is how my dyna is built,jmc swingarm ohlins shocks,100ci s+s top end and last weekend I just fitted an xr1200 fr end with mv agusta 6 piston fr calipers low bars and it handles SWEET.

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 10:14 am
 

Riding through this world, all alone

God takes your soul; you're on your own

The crow flies straight, a perfect line

On the Devil's back until you die

This life is short, baby that's a fact

Better live it right, you ain't coming back

Gotta raise some Hell before they take you down

Gotta live this life

Gotta look this world in the eye

Gotta live this life 'till you die

You better have soul, nothing less

Cos when it's business time, it's life or death

The King is dead, the light goes on

Don't lose your head when the deal goes down

Better keep your eyes on the road ahead

Gotta live this life

Gotta look this world in the eye

Gotta live this life until you die...

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 12:25 pm
 

I hate H8TER
I heart H8TER

something be said about not being run off the road by soccer moms in suburbans. Maybe I'm gettin old but being able to stop in a short distance or get on the freeway at speed are things I value these days. Dynas a good platform to start with if your into such things...Ducatis a better platform but we'll save that for another article...

Commented on 6-18-2011 At 03:22 pm
 

i always have to appreciate purposeful bikes. definately has my stamp of approval whether its been exploited by a tv show or not.

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 07:19 am
 

"Ducatis a better platform but we'll save that for another article..."

I gotta wonder..considering how few there are of the higher performance
Ducatis it's funny how I keep seeing them going home on the back of flatbeds.
On Highway 35, near Alice's etc. The rest of the bikes i see down there on the same flatbeds are generally there because they've been crashed.

The 2 valve per cylinders Monsters otoh by reputation are more reliable than the 4 valve and are certainly initially lower-cost than Dynas, at least in CA.

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 11:10 am
 

Oh dear, now we are talking about Ducatis . . . this IS CHOPcult, is it not?

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 03:56 pm
 

Last I checked, chopcult was a non-denominational motorcycle forum. U like rules n moderators, go back to the Jack-ass Journal.
RIP Dragon

X0X0

Otto

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 05:19 pm
 

I agree. In fact, I submit that we instate a new rule: Anyone who says/asks "Isn’t this is Chop Cult" in a non-sarcastic manner is excommunicated.

If you want a forum that only caters to your niche of interest, start your own site.

I'm waiting for a hypermotard story...

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 07:07 pm
 

Isn't this Chop Cult.

"I submit that we instate a new rule...."

For that reason alone dork - you should be excommunicated

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 09:54 pm
 

I never read these articles, but I had to read it since I saw H8ter's bike on here. Now I check in here every day just to read the comments I knew this bike would generate.

I still like this style bike like I always have. Once SOA goes away, you'll be able to ride this style of bike again without being compared to Jax Teller....

Bike is turning out cool!

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 11:45 pm
 

er . . . I thought Chopcult WAS kinda 'niche interest' - choppers and bobbers. Maybe the name should be changed, then, to reflect a wider range of interests.

Commented on 6-19-2011 At 11:49 pm
 

"I'm waiting for a hypermotard story..."

We saw a hypermotard outside Century Cycles in San Pedro today. Looked like a Cushman frame, Mustang tank, and a Honda 50 engine. Then some guy came up on what appeared to be a Taiwanese knock off of a Honda 70 with a crab pot mounted over the rear wheel and made into the gas tank. I love this crazy shit as much as the show bikes it is just a different genre. Someday I am going to buy a camera just so I can post pictures of the goofy stuff on here. The first one will be the "horse" bike of Fallbrook.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 03:33 am
 

Don't panic, tomorrow morning brings a world class custom, and another one on Wednesday, maybe even some chopper-specific tech on Friday...

Actually less negative comments than I anticipated, which I think shows the diversity of members on here. This type of bike might not be everyone's cup of tea, but is still worth investigating no matter what you are into.

I never did get an answer on the tall riser/flat bar position. It's the one thing I can't find a performance or practical source for. Why not a motocross type bar with this set up? Is it just style?

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 03:50 am
 

Not the first Duck tale to wag on the old 33:

http://www.chopcult.com/news/articles/duck-soup-a-...

I penned this one during CC's infancy way back in November '09.

We like motorcycles around here, all kinds, but mostly ones that have been personally customized by their owners--not the dealer.

I've ridden Suckerfree's heavily customized Hypermotard 1100S, and let me tell you, it is a 21st century chopper if ever there was one.

We'll get back to old bikes and the dudes who build them soon enough, gentlemen.

In the mean time, thanks for your open-mindedness, continued faith and generous support.

McGoo

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 04:00 am
 

Bill,

Not sure if this answer is correct, but it's correct for me. I have the T-bars from the bung king (bungking.com) who sets up many of the club riders in the bay area.

They're strong, Little to no play and the position is comfortable for the long haul. I think the motocross bar idea would be sweet but I think if you drop a 600 lbs on them the current setup will hold up a little better.


Here's my setup:

1 1/4" Diameter
11" Height
7" Pullback 29" Width

Sorry for the plug but Daren is a good guy.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 04:44 am
 

Sharky, thanks for the comment. I guess it's the high position that makes it comfortable on the highway like a low ape but in a set up that is narrower and has no twisting like a riser/bar combo typically would. Moto bars might be better for cornering but not as comfortable for long highway miles.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 05:13 am
 

Not nearly as many ill informed SOA comments as I expected.

It's high. I jump curbs. I studied suspension technology. I weigh 280 pounds.

It has high bars for comfort. But the straight drag bars are 28", quite a bit more narrow than apes. I'd love MX bars, but they're typically 1-1/4" bars, so that makes mounting the gauge cluster difficult and/or expensive.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 11:46 am
 

I'll sit here and preach Dave Mackie's product all day long. Quality parts and workmanship and their shit runs like a scalded ass ape.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 08:35 pm
 

DickFitzwell - your getting a punch in the nuts next time I see you, bitch....even if I am staying at your crapshack.

Commented on 6-20-2011 At 11:27 pm
 

very nice bike! i really like the rotors. those rear shocks are sweet. i bet it's a fun ride. that and the motard!

Commented on 6-21-2011 At 12:47 am
 

Dragon would not have approved of this feature

Commented on 6-21-2011 At 12:57 am
 

Even though "Club Style" bike are currently in style, it should in no way detract from how they came to be and how bitchin' they are to ride.

The proof is in the pudding that they guys who evolved this style of bike did so not as fashion, but as a function. No more no less...

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