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  1. #41
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    I run a BDL open on my kick only bike and a closed on my FXR (both 80in) I haven't had a problem with either that wasn't my fault to begin with. On a 4 speed, and maybe others, you have to use the "big fix" kit that BDL sells to make sure that the basket can't walk away from the hub and cause crappy adjustment. That kit also replaces the staggered shorter cage bearings on a stock 3 or 5 finger to longer bearings that take up all of the side to side play.

    For the money I've been pretty stoked but like Nicko said their service is the absolute worst. So just don't plan on getting any answers from them about your setup. But thats what this forum is for I guess.

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    I went from Karata to BDL. Ran the karata for about 3 years. The BDL for 10...Now I am a primo fan. You could not pay me to take the primo off my bike and use a BDL. There is not even a comparison. I run the Brute IV, for an FXR and love it

    The primo is a noisy turd...and there is one spot in the RPM range where it clatters like piston slap. it is annoying because that is at 70 MPH in 6th gear. But speed up, slow down, or drop it back into 5th, and the noise is gone. it is just something you get used to. I am putting a lot of power down, so I use the Gates kevlar woven belt instead of the primo belt. I keep the primo one as a spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superglide View Post
    I put a 1 1/2 " on my shovel , it's worked out ok but i don't like the clutch . I'am going to get a primo clutch which should fix the problem . It depends on your application but you get what you pay for in the end .
    Wise man.
    I got my 1.5" kick only BDL for about $250 and my Pro Clutch for under $400.

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    So I got a 74 shovel and I ordered the bdl 1.5 open and was gonna run it with the old style pan primary covers. So do I need to get the extra parts for it so it doesn't "walk out"?

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    I have a 3" BDL kick only. When I got it "used" the stays or whatever they are called, that keep the steels on the clutch from turning were loose and a few had grooves on them.

    I contacted BDL, they told me to send it to them and they would make it right.
    They replaced the worn parts at no charge and mailed it back.

    I would recomend them.
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    I have rocked 2 BDL's never once had a problem ! would use them again !

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    before going with the primo drive, I talked to a BDL rep about my horsepower/stress requirements. I had broken three primary chains, so I had some obvious concerns.

    He told me that the narrower belts were holding up better then the wide ones, for high performance applications. His own opinion was that the narrower belts allowed a little bit of stretch, where the wider ones were more rigid

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    appreciate this is an old-ass thread but I figured I would bump it anyway as I put one of the BDL 1.5" enclosed drive kits on my evo softail around a year or so ago.

    I got the kit with the BBP - 600 ball bearing pressure plate and it removes the hassle of having to mess with spring pressure adjustments on the plate. You just load up the clutch plates in order, then put the ballbearing cover and plate over it all and snug down the bolts until they are fully seated. Pretty easy to do. The kit is very basic and easy to install and I have to say I have never had an issue with clutch slipping.

    The only gripes I have with the kit are that the belt has a tendency to rub against the outside primary cover so in order to actually put the primary cover on, I had to dremel some meat off the inside lower part of the cover to stop this from happening. The clutch lever is by no means "easy" to pull and is a damn sight stiffer than stock. However, I do run a kicker on my bike which does not have as smooth a ball/ramp assembly as the stock cover and I needed to run a longer pushrod to account for the extra travel inside the assembly to engage the clutch. This may be why the lever is harder to pull.

    Noise isnt too bad with the cover on. I have run it a couple times with the cover off just for fun and it does start to annoy you because you end up wondering if the constant spoon slapping noises are the clutch or something else! The biggest issue for me is the way the bike will no longer seem happy at low rpm in higher gear cruising. It starts "chugging" a lot easier than with the stock set up so you often end up changing up and down through the gears a lot more often, particularly in traffic.

    Im happy enough with the purchase but in hindsight I probably wouldn't bother with another belt drive primary again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcubes View Post
    appreciate this is an old-ass thread but I figured I would bump it anyway as I put one of the BDL 1.5" enclosed drive kits on my evo softail around a year or so ago.

    I got the kit with the BBP - 600 ball bearing pressure plate and it removes the hassle of having to mess with spring pressure adjustments on the plate. You just load up the clutch plates in order, then put the ballbearing cover and plate over it all and snug down the bolts until they are fully seated. Pretty easy to do. The kit is very basic and easy to install and I have to say I have never had an issue with clutch slipping.

    The only gripes I have with the kit are that the belt has a tendency to rub against the outside primary cover so in order to actually put the primary cover on, I had to dremel some meat off the inside lower part of the cover to stop this from happening. The clutch lever is by no means "easy" to pull and is a damn sight stiffer than stock. However, I do run a kicker on my bike which does not have as smooth a ball/ramp assembly as the stock cover and I needed to run a longer pushrod to account for the extra travel inside the assembly to engage the clutch. This may be why the lever is harder to pull.

    Noise isnt too bad with the cover on. I have run it a couple times with the cover off just for fun and it does start to annoy you because you end up wondering if the constant spoon slapping noises are the clutch or something else! The biggest issue for me is the way the bike will no longer seem happy at low rpm in higher gear cruising. It starts "chugging" a lot easier than with the stock set up so you often end up changing up and down through the gears a lot more often, particularly in traffic.

    Im happy enough with the purchase but in hindsight I probably wouldn't bother with another belt drive primary again.

    I’ve noticed , with only the rigid 4 speed kick start 1.5 inch kits only at least , the belts are too tight . The 2” does not seem to have this problem. Get the one size smaller sprocket when ordering. Perhaps this is the case with your set-up as well ?

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    I think the chugging is a combination of things to be honest. I have an EV27 cam so the powerband is shifted more to the middle of the rev range and also the lack of a compensator means it will naturally "buck" a little at lower revs.

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    Just an fyi for anyone buying a used older bdl belt drive. Make sure it's a bdl !! A korean knockoff called roadmax looks so much like a bdl that even a bdl tech identified it as a bdl unit until I took off the pulley end covers and sent him a pic. If you do buy the roadmax, be studying on clutches cause you will need one shortly.
    Last edited by Nottimportant; 08-06-2021 at 10:35 AM.

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    1.5 bdl open belt on my shovel, with ratchet top 4 speed. 3rd season on this set up with no issues or belts replaced. i ride 4- 5 days a week. 20-30 miles day, work commute etc.

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    I installed a 3" BDL on my Softail 2 years ago and I like everything about it especially the sound. I ran it for a while without the cover but it violently ate 3 pairs of jeans. I know it's a Softail but it's all I got.
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    1.5 bdl on 4 diff. scooters. all hi mileage, all open no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottimportant View Post
    Just an fyi for anyone buying a used older bdl belt drive. Make sure it's a bdl !! A korean knockoff called roadmax looks so much like a bdl that even a bdl tech identified it as a bdl unit until I took off the pulley end covers and sent him a pic. If you do buy the roadmax, be studying on clutches cause you will need one shortly.
    Pretty damn sure they're supplied by Taiwan at this point for BDL, the kit I ordered had "bestorq by BDL" no origin mark. "American Prime MFG" is who I'd buy belts or any open primary going forward.

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