Choptember How-To XS650 Banshee Charging System Swap
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i pieced together this setup with mr. riggs's bracket and it's working well.
my question is how many of all of you have done this swap and are running without a battery?
after losing yet another wet acid battery from vibration i decided to hook in the capacitor i had lying around and sure enough the bike fired right up and ran fine off idle but the bike starts to break up at idle. after talking back and forth with mr riggs about it he advises switching to an HEI setup pieced together for about $19 from junkyard parts to keep the power draw from the ignition much lower than with points or the pamco ignition. he also advises switching to LED lights to draw less power. with these two modifications im told the bike will have plenty of juice from the PMA at idle to run ignition, lights, and still read about 13 volts if i remember correctly. im in the process of gathering parts for this ignition and he has a thread explaining how to do it if anyone is interested.
my bike runs with points and no battery but i have to turn the idle up higher than im comfortable with to keep it running.
don't want to clutter the thread but just curious if anyone is running with points or pamco with no battery using this setup or has any other tricks that work.Comment
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Awesome write up, I'm going parts hunting this week. I have a quick question, maybe this was just a typo but why the difference?
"Here is what you will need:
Used Parts:
1. YFZ350 Banshee Stator Bracket - Usually about $10-20 on Ebay
2. 3 Phase Stator -Can be found anywhere from $20 on up on ebay. Will put a list of useable stators below.
3. YFZ250 Banshee Flywheel. "Comment
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Awesome write up, I'm going parts hunting this week. I have a quick question, maybe this was just a typo but why the difference?
"Here is what you will need:
Used Parts:
1. YFZ350 Banshee Stator Bracket - Usually about $10-20 on Ebay
2. 3 Phase Stator -Can be found anywhere from $20 on up on ebay. Will put a list of useable stators below.
3. YFZ250 Banshee Flywheel. "
Type, thanks for noticing, I'll fix it for usComment
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Im runnin no battery with a pamco ignition system, the banshee rotor with a Mr. Riggs adapter. My stator and reg rectifier both came off a 91 ninja 600. Starts easy runs well. Theres a little capacitor inline for the lights and such.I ran most wiring in the frame, and is very clean this way. I pulled the starter off tyhe engine and blocked it off. I made a bracket to fit to the starter mounting points and on that bracket mounted the reg/rectifier and the capacitor so its tucked away nice and clean. IM hoping it gets good airflow under the bike that way. No problem so far. I have 2 switches, one for the high low beam and one kill switch. 2 fuses as well. one for the ignition system, one for the lights/horn. I dont actualy have a horn.. but you get the idea.Comment
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Im runnin no battery with a pamco ignition system, the banshee rotor with a Mr. Riggs adapter. My stator and reg rectifier both came off a 91 ninja 600. Starts easy runs well. Theres a little capacitor inline for the lights and such.I ran most wiring in the frame, and is very clean this way. I pulled the starter off tyhe engine and blocked it off. I made a bracket to fit to the starter mounting points and on that bracket mounted the reg/rectifier and the capacitor so its tucked away nice and clean. IM hoping it gets good airflow under the bike that way. No problem so far. I have 2 switches, one for the high low beam and one kill switch. 2 fuses as well. one for the ignition system, one for the lights/horn. I dont actualy have a horn.. but you get the idea.Comment
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trav101, have you checked what voltage output is with the bike running with lights on at idle? mine dropped below 12v at idle with the lights on. do you have regular bulbs or LED? and if you have a tach what is the idle set at? i have no tach but liked my bike to idle on the low side, prob somewhere below 1000 rpm. cant pull this off without the battery.Comment
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XS2rat, buy this thing... http://cgi.ebay.com/12Volt-0-8amp-ho...item43a24ca1de ...works great. Sealed, smaller than most 10,000uf capacitors, bright lights, smooth idle, decent reserve.Comment
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XS2rat, buy this thing... http://cgi.ebay.com/12Volt-0-8amp-ho...item43a24ca1de ...works great. Sealed, smaller than most 10,000uf capacitors, bright lights, smooth idle, decent reserve.
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That's funny, cause I had one of those batteries quit after about 3 months. I think it just couldn't handle the over charging... Just a guess though. Apparently others have had good luck with them. I just went back to the capacitor and all was well. How long have you two (punk, xs2) been running them?Comment
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havent run one of those batteries yet but the price is right to give it a try. i need to recheck my bike to see if its overcharging because i dont trust my old analog multimeter. its reading right around 14.8V which i think is just about the point of overcharging. dont want to fry another battery for no reason. i have my bike running on the capacitor right now but cant get the idle too low or it cuts out.Comment
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havent run one of those batteries yet but the price is right to give it a try. i need to recheck my bike to see if its overcharging because i dont trust my old analog multimeter. its reading right around 14.8V which i think is just about the point of overcharging. dont want to fry another battery for no reason. i have my bike running on the capacitor right now but cant get the idle too low or it cuts out.
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