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    Quote Originally Posted by Fxrfan75 View Post
    WHATS THE AVERAGE COST TO SPLIT THE CASES GO COMPLETELY THRU ONE ?
    There is no way to answer that...... It all depends on what's wrong with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    What are the actual symptoms? Noises? Oil level? Oil return to tank when running? Compression test numbers?
    BTW I don't run gauges, just idiot lights since it's a full flow system and pressure drops considerably when warm. Gauges on an HD can be deceptive and should not be considered precise.

    If it runs and doesn't make any odd noises, perform a charging system test since you had to jump it. I suspect an old battery. Anything longer than two or three years on a bike is a matter of luck.

    Cost to fix damage is based on actual damage. Not all of most engines dies at once. If there is considerable damage may be cheaper than an overhaul to buy a low mileage donor Evo (need not be an FXR, Evo big twins interchange), rape it then part it out.

    Crate engines are often a better deal than a rebuild and a much better idea if you want more HP than the slow stock lump.

    Get the facts then post what you find.
    Listen to farmall here. Make sure you understand what he is saying.
    Don't trust that dopey gauge. Don't make assumptions.
    If you can get it started, have someone experienced (tech) listen to it.

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    went down on the old fxr the other day. lucky to walk away but sad to say just about everything is bent.

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    Well that sucks. Glad you're OK though.
    What happened?

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    What size bars are those? Did you use the stock cables and line.

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    Too bad about the wreck but the damage doesn't appear severe. Now you can celebrate life with an upgrade!

    Looks like the bendy bits protected the frame which is the key component of an FXR. Aftermarket fenders are inexpensive and non-stock aftermarket tanks quite reasonable.

    I prefer those Super Glide style seats and bought one new in '88 to replace the flip seat which moved my ass too far forward. I use a stainless wing nut and stud to hold mine on but have gone years without the wing nut (the seat can't escape my crotch unless disaster strikes). If it's torn I'd get it reupholstered. Auto shops have access to much heavier/better vinyl.

    Sucks that the excellent stock downpipes got squashed but do NOT replace with drag pipes which strangle the engine in any form. Fuck drag pipes... The only thing I'd install other than a stock style exhaust (which sounds like a Harley) is a decent 2-into-1 (which can't sound like a Harley). I have a Thunderheader and a Bassani Road Rage on my FXRs, the Road Rage is better built with a superior mount and tucks in well. I had to fab a Thunderheader mount because fuck that POS misused Barrymount they used to run and might still. The Thunderheader coating sucks and it will get blasted then Cerakoted.

    If the forks are bent it's a fine time to install dual disc brakes with four piston calipers. (Any time is fine actually, fuck those single piston calipers even in dual form which I also ran since new when I bought the kit.) Contemporary Sportster forks and rims etc interchange except for tube lenght (IIRC some match) and springs. I never checked damper rod part numbers.

    If you want the new fender to hug the tire closer just redrill the holes to suit. The MoCo left plenty of room.

    The vtwinforum FXR section is excellent, though the rest is basically "boomers with baggers". Lots of brake and fork info lives there.

    Since the air filter got smacked I'd examine the carb area after removing it. Good time to replace the intake manifold seals too and anything old and rubber while it's down for repair. Inspect or replace your rubber engine mounts. The front can be completely detached and you might not notice! Mine was and I was quite surprised. If you do the rear mounts do NOT omit slathering the pivot bolt with anti-seize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcat View Post
    Well that sucks. Glad you're OK though.
    What happened?
    Thanks ya very sore but just lucky I didn't split my head open. racing motocross my whole life I'm constantly looking at the bikes fly by me where I live in Idaho with no helmet laws and think man that's stupid. I have always worn a helmet and have hit my head more times then I can remember on the dirt. This time I was just running to the store and my helmet was hiding from me so I thought what the hell. Last time I will ever do that. still unclear on what happened I remember up to the stop light, take a corner get on hwy going 55ish and thats it. next thing I remember is waking up with some lady screaming at me to stay down. I drove to the scene a few weeks later, no skid marks just looks like I ran straight off the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    Too bad about the wreck but the damage doesn't appear severe. Now you can celebrate life with an upgrade!

    Looks like the bendy bits protected the frame which is the key component of an FXR. Aftermarket fenders are inexpensive and non-stock aftermarket tanks quite reasonable.

    I prefer those Super Glide style seats and bought one new in '88 to replace the flip seat which moved my ass too far forward. I use a stainless wing nut and stud to hold mine on but have gone years without the wing nut (the seat can't escape my crotch unless disaster strikes). If it's torn I'd get it reupholstered. Auto shops have access to much heavier/better vinyl.

    Sucks that the excellent stock downpipes got squashed but do NOT replace with drag pipes which strangle the engine in any form. Fuck drag pipes... The only thing I'd install other than a stock style exhaust (which sounds like a Harley) is a decent 2-into-1 (which can't sound like a Harley). I have a Thunderheader and a Bassani Road Rage on my FXRs, the Road Rage is better built with a superior mount and tucks in well. I had to fab a Thunderheader mount because fuck that POS misused Barrymount they used to run and might still. The Thunderheader coating sucks and it will get blasted then Cerakoted.

    If the forks are bent it's a fine time to install dual disc brakes with four piston calipers. (Any time is fine actually, fuck those single piston calipers even in dual form which I also ran since new when I bought the kit.) Contemporary Sportster forks and rims etc interchange except for tube lenght (IIRC some match) and springs. I never checked damper rod part numbers.

    If you want the new fender to hug the tire closer just redrill the holes to suit. The MoCo left plenty of room.

    The vtwinforum FXR section is excellent, though the rest is basically "boomers with baggers". Lots of brake and fork info lives there.

    Since the air filter got smacked I'd examine the carb area after removing it. Good time to replace the intake manifold seals too and anything old and rubber while it's down for repair. Inspect or replace your rubber engine mounts. The front can be completely detached and you might not notice! Mine was and I was quite surprised. If you do the rear mounts do NOT omit slathering the pivot bolt with anti-seize.
    Ya pretty crappy picture but I parked it in my garage not my shop so I wouldn't have to look at it. I haven't done a full inspection but at first glance tins are shot. Luckily when I bought this bike the guy said hey you want these to? pulls down a box with a full matching tin set. Him and his buddy both got out of army and bought matching bikes, his buddy went full aftermarket and gave him the set. I said ya! so thats covered, tank has a small dent but better than nothing. front end is toast. rear STBD side shock is bent and looks like the frame tweaked a bit with it but I do have a frame jig so I don't think it will be a total loss. Always a bright side that I can build a sweet FXR now but I really did love how clean and original it was though but I guess it could be worse. Ill post some more pictures at a later date when I pull her on the lift.

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    Default FXR (and other rubbermount big twins) swingarm pivot repair videos.

    FXR (and other rubbermount big twins) swingarm pivot repair videos by Mr. Northeastconfederate:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTv...ature=youtu.be

    The kit is from True Track but the the principle is using a "piloted chucking reamer" to bore the case on the motorcycle to avoid pulling the gearbox then clamping it on a milling machine table. Watch all three videos.

    They offer kits for both pivot axle sizes and the job is pretty basic.

    I have a mill but if I had to do that job in the bike I'd try to source a piloted chucking reamer with 5/8" pilot and "desired bushing outside diameter" cutting area" based on the bushings I wanted or grind down a pilot area on a conventional reamer (see reamer in video) to 5/8" size with my toolpost grinder on my lathe or just buy the True Track kit.

    http://www.true-track.com/TT_20-19L-RK_Instr.pdf

    http://www.true-track.com/tt_products.html

    The theory of operation is worth watching if you've never done that sort of work.
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    I installed the 02 to 08 swing arm on my '95 touring but went a little different route. I used my original .625 swing arm pivot and machined some reducer bushings to fit the spherical OEM 3/4" I.D.bearings in the later model swing arm. I put it all back together with new rubber isolater's, torqued up the factory specs. and it worked out very well. I like the forged axle ends on the newer swing arm, much better than touring and FXR swing arms that crush real easy from over torquing the axle. I had to convert my back wheel to 1" sealed bearings but I like that beefy 1" rear axle. I can definitely tell a difference in the handling. The swing arms are relatively cheap on ebay, I got mine as a new take off from a trike builder for 56 bucks, shipped! All this would be a good addition on an FXR hot rod.
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    Since pivot axle weakness isn't an issue your idea makes perfect sense. What wheel bearing make/size/part number did you use?

    I'm keeping the stock pivot bore on my current case since it's still tight and will bore the case when it wears (long case bore should last longer than two short bushings) and I want to keep the stock style rear wheel.

    Since my back is destroyed if a police seat/back rest/air shocks etc aren't comfortable enough I'll get the bagger swingarm and lengthen it for a softer ride (due to more travel at the wheel and longer wheel base). The stock swingarm isn't an issue for me on a 600lb FXR but it's too thin for me to want to extend.

    I may remachine the larger diameter rear axle to fit the Timken style bearings (which HD should have kept but they obviously didn't want to shim them, bearing quality has been going down since the Shovelhead era swingarm Timkens went away) but I won't have one in my hand for a bit.

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