Big Twin Evo Timing Cup off 180 degrees

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  • BrandonThePleb
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 529

    Big Twin Evo Timing Cup off 180 degrees

    I switched out my cam (Andres ev27) on my 93 evo. When I went to static time with the Eletronic ignition (s&s Hi-4n) I noticed the timing cup was pointed the other way(TDC).Click image for larger version

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ID:	1347966 The Red line is where the slot part of the timing cup is pointing and the yellow is where it needs to be. You can see here that I aligned the Cam to the pinion and Breather Gear. Click image for larger version

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ID:	1347967 Kinda confused. I have installed these before. Everything looked stock when I was in there.
  • JBinNC
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 2713

    #2
    Doing the cam timing and doing the ignition timing are two completely independent operations.

    Turn the motor over (forward) until you have the front cylinder on its compression stroke and then proceed with your ignition timing.

    Jim

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    • BrandonThePleb
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 529

      #3
      Hi Jim,
      When I move the motor over to have the front cylinder on compression stroke. Piston up and valves closed with the TDC mark showing. My Timing Cup looks like that in the picture. If that makes sense.

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      • JBinNC
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2018
        • 2713

        #4
        You are in overlap then, not the compression stroke.

        Jim

        Edit: To be clearer, I should have said that you are on the exhaust stroke. Turn the motor one full turn and you will be on the compression stroke.
        Last edited by JBinNC; 09-26-2022, 5:34 PM.

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        • BrandonThePleb
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 529

          #5
          Jim
          With it on the Compression stroke I should still be able to see the TDC line in the timing hole? Also what should my pushrods be looking like? front intake up? rear cylinder on overlap?

          Thanks in advance

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          • JBinNC
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2018
            • 2713

            #6
            Yes, TDC mark will be visible on compression or exhaust stroke. (720 crank degrees or 2 turns for the full four cycles)

            The front intake valve will open and close, and both valves will be closed on the compression stroke. Intake valve closes at the start of the compression stroke.

            Front cylinder on compression, rear cylinder is on overlap, yes.

            Jim

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            • Dragstews
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 13739

              #7


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