Jacks Crocker
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A unique American original, a 1939 Crocker, with an equally unique American original owner – the second time.
It went for $275K as befits a museum piece.
In this follow up to contributor Paul Garson’s preview of the vintage machines on the block at Joe’s Garage we finally get see how high the bids went for some fantastic vehicles.
Some nice color pics of a period mild custom:
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yea "It" , the Green and White "Crocker". how much research did Paul Garson do for that article ? none at all.
heres another version ...
Daniel Statnekov was the caretaker of the 1939 Crocker Big Tank previously owned by Jack Lilly, a member of the infamous Boozefighters Motorcycle Club.
The guy who has that Green and White "thing" today, paid a ton for it. It looks like a 1939 Crocker, probably sounds like a 1939 Crocker too but the engine number is like a 3 dollar bill. The leather seat has been signed "Jack Lilly 1946 - 2001", that doesn't have anything to do with Jacks original factory Crocker, but it is fitting for a tribute bike, which is what it is. Jack Lilly sold his bike years before the Boozefighters existed in 1946
The book "The Original Wild Ones" the preface says "This is not a history book" and that is a FACT!
Get an inside look at the real beginning of outlaw biker culture with this “raucous and heartfelt recounting of the early days of biker clubs” (Roadbike). The story starts one weekend in 1947, at a motorcycle race in Hollister, California. A few members of one club, the no-holds-barred “Boozefighters,” got a little juiced up and took their racing to the street. Word of the fracas spread, and soon enough Life magazine was on hand to tell the world, with sensational (albeit posed) pictures of the outlaws. And then the “Hollister riot” made its way into the movies, immortalized in Marlon Brando’s “The Wild One.”What was the reality behind the myth? Through interviews with the surviving members of the Boozefighters, current member Bill Hayes and club historian Jim “JQ” Quattlebaum take readers right into the fray for a firsthand account of what happened in Hollister, and the formation of the Boozefighters, where the outlaw biker culture truly began. The book, “with its great stories and entertaining real-life characters” (MotorcycleUSA.com), is “mandatory reading for anyone interested in American motorcycling history “(Minnesota Motorcycle Monthly).
The "Crocker company' and Australia's '1346Venicei" have proven that a repop Crocker can be built today, using the same methods, just like Al Crocker did in the 1930s. Ernie Skelton was doing the same thing from 1970s to 1995. The new company filled the gap left by Skelton
Theres a lot of money to be made and created in Vintage bikes , some people make their own luck
No V-twins were built in 1940, 1941, 1942, but the big auction houses certainly sell/sold themComment
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in 1979 me and a buddy drove down to California and went to Visalia CA and went to stan Dishongs place before he went to Oregon. He had a small museum. Included was a green bigtank Crocker. Last I heard it went to Huggy Bears place The Shop. I know (if the guy is still alive) of one other crocker that I saw in person. (besides davenport) Small tank model, looked original, and really ratty. Guy said the tranny was blown in it. If memory is correct the tranny case was part of the lower frame casting.Comment
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Stan Dishong bike 41-61-202. where did he get it ? = Ernie Skelton sold incomplete projects in 1970s 1980s
Buck Lovell hasnt responded to emails
The transmission is supposed to be bullet proof. The shift fork is supposed to be the weak link, 'they' say.
If that fork broke, then the entire MC is scrap, the engine does not bolt into HD or Indian. Primary doesnt bolt to anything. 3/8" 4 row chain same link size as Xl, WR and Indian. Elmo Looper had HD 4 speed + 2 row 1/2" primary, Norton chassis.
Elmo Looper didnt have the inventory of spare parts. Ive spoken to his Son on the phone. He was born 1947. He never saw a stock of parts in the shed. so where did all the spare parts come from ? Skelton.
The 'Scootabout' gets in the way of a good story. the names of employees is freely available on the net, I already posted on this site.
Indians and HD can be found in shocking condition, especially deteriorated crank cases, yet "Crockers" are in fantastic conditionComment
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Its my understanding that Harley bought a crocker and took it apart to try and find any patent infringements. Presumably that is why a crocker was discovered in that area. Maybe urban legend. Also what about the story that Harley told kelsey hays they would not buy any more rims from them if they sold any to Crocker. Story goes you had to bring in your own rims to get a new crocker. Maybe urban legend again. Years ago went to buy a indian OHV conversion built by Crocker for a 101 scout out of Bay View Idaho. Missed it by 3 days. Gary Hite (of spokane wa) beat me to it, Did get a Indian factory racing, bronze cam cover, all ball bearing lower end (Altoona lower end. one of 4) from the idaho guy but thats another storyComment
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sorry no photos, long before cell phone. Ya know, the time when it cost a small fortune to make a long distant phone call lol, sold it on another trip to California to Russel Harmon, The guy with all the cool indian racers in the Indian book. Got to sit on all of them, goddamn they are small. I am 6 foot and all those board trackers the handlebars hit ya in the chest and you can literally kiss the front tire. A couple of years ago I saw on ebay they were selling Crocker unmachined castings for the 101 conversion. Seemed to be of new manufacture. Sorry to hijack the threadComment
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