I'm new and dumb

[babysfirstbike86]

Hand Pan Sand:



Ham pan sand:





Talked to the local paint guru dude and he said you can't get methylene chloride paint remover anywhere, and ca doesn't sell ultra.
So I'm lookin for some procrastinating hoarders of supplies for big dreams... basically I need old cans.

[Dragstews]

I know ....



That's no help at all !!

Idea ...
Take them down to your local Monument Maker (Tombstone) and have them sand blasted ..

[babysfirstbike86]

DOT 3 showing signs of peelage... did another soak on the test spot, we'll see how it goes...

[DustyDave]

Scrape off what wrinkled then soak it again. That must be some bad assed paint. dot 3 usually gets to bare metal over night except for the corners and seams, that you got to scrape and re do.
Dusty

[DoomBuggy]

Do you have access to an electric drill, plug-in or battery? If so, save yourself a lot of headache and at least get some cheap wire wheels for the drill and go at it that way. If that is an epoxy paint on there it will be slow going with chemicals.

Home Depot, Ace Hardware, Lowes, etc all have them for under $10.00.



I did both of my tanks in less then 2 hours with a couple different wire wheels

[babysfirstbike86]

Doesn't that gouge the metal? The sander i got works pretty quickly but I get those little spiral patterns in the metal. Maybe started with the wrong grit but I'm afraid of making more problems by scratching up the metal.

[DoomBuggy]

Those little spirals are OK, your sealer/primer will not only fill them, but it actually grabs a hold in those "grooves". I use 400 grit paper before I do my sealer coat so that the surface is rough enough for the paint to adhere to. If you have too smooth of a surface you could end up with paint failure.

edit: I will go as rough as 80 grit to get rid of rust or old bondo, then use a 200 and finally a 400 before shooting sealer/primer. The fine papers up to 2000 grit are used between clear and buffing. That is when you really want to get rid of your swirls.

[babysfirstbike86]

Paint failure! Thanks! I was thinking I wanted very smooth and then the etching primer would bite down. But that makes sense. Onward!

[CDeeZ]

Those little spirals are OK, your sealer/primer will not only fill them, but it actually grabs a hold in those "grooves". I use 400 grit paper before I do my sealer coat so that the surface is rough enough for the paint to adhere to. If you have too smooth of a surface you could end up with paint failure.

edit: I will go as rough as 80 grit to get rid of rust or old bondo, then use a 200 and finally a 400 before shooting sealer/primer. The fine papers up to 2000 grit are used between clear and buffing. That is when you really want to get rid of your swirls.

DB Speaketh the truth!

[babysfirstbike86]

Thanks! Really appreciate that. I think I started with 600 there (what got the spirals going) but I freaked out and stopped.
If I were to get a wire wheel, what would I start with? I'll definitely need something else to get in the center facing sides of the tanks and all the little groovies.

[DoomBuggy]

I have a drawer of them now.




But these are the three types I use the most.

[babysfirstbike86]

You just wanted to show off that desert rose! I don't blame you! Haha.

Thanks! I think I have that little brushy one somewhere...
More toys!

[Dragstews]

Two of those in DB's draw are not really wire ...
Can anyone point them out .. ?

(Except DB)

[rockman96]

There's a couple of fibers in the mix

[DoomBuggy]

Give that man a bourbon.

I didn't suggest those to Crista as they are a little more expensive and can be pretty aggressive if you are not careful.