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  • Banjoguy
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2022
    • 12

    Help with HD front end on cb650

    Okay soo I got a free harley front end from a shovelhead (don't have it in front of me yet) and I want it on the cb650 project I got going . Only thing I have on the front of the cb is the lower tree and the forks that are air assist . Rather have HD for a wider variety of wheels and bars and since I have to buy parts for whats on there now it would just make more sense to take the one off the shovelhead and fit it somehow .. now I know it's probably not a direct fit but what are some of my options for getting it on. If I pressed out the stem would it be direct press to fit on the HD tree? If not what do I got to do . The new front end will come with the bearings and cups that where on it before so is there another way I can do it without pressing out the stem . Kinda new to this and would appreciate some good advice . Thanks
  • TriNortchopz
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 3266

    #2
    found this:
    "The CB650 head tube appears to be roughly 1/4 inch shorter than the CB750..."

    "Steering bearings, the CB750 uses; Upper: 26 x 48.5 x 15.2 and Lower: 30 x 50 x 14.4
    The 81 CB650 uses... you guessed it; Upper: 26 x 48.5 x 15.2 and Lower: 30 x 50 x 14.4
    so far so good."

    So, using a tapered roller bearing kit for the CB650, just install CB races, and use the 1" ID Timken tapered roller bearing (typical HD); L44643 (or a utility trailer replacement bearing with 1" ID)

    CB 750 frame neck is 7.46":
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    Harley neck (without separate bearing cups) is 7.063":
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    Harley neck without cups is 1" shorter at 6-1/16"
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    could also do a HD neck swap if ya wanted:
    Neck/Steering Head Choices


    do you know what frontend you are getting?...shovel may not be what was originally on there

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    • Banjoguy
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2022
      • 12

      #3
      Okay this is a good start for me . Now that I got that infront of me .. I'm gonna have to eventually go pick up the front end and properly identify it but as far as I know it's from a shovel it's my father's old bike and this is what he's told me . But ya never know .... so with all this infront of me . If all goes well could I just slap Some spacers on the bottom and call it good if that's the difference I'm looking at. ... I

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