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  • Easybake323
    Member
    • Oct 2021
    • 35

    4 speed will not go Into neutral

    Early 70s 4speed ratchet tranny will not go into neutral?? Where should I start ??
  • Tattooo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 12407

    #2
    Originally posted by Easybake323
    Early 70s 4speed ratchet tranny will not go into neutral?? Where should I start ??
    Ratchet lid spring is broken................ If you can't get to it, Pull the primary so you can get the ratchet cover off.............. No need to pull the trans............
    Last edited by Tattooo; 12-28-2021, 3:38 PM.

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    • JBinNC
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 2706

      #3
      If it won't go into neutral in normal operation, that would indicate that the clutch is dragging.

      Jim

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      • Tattooo
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 12407

        #4
        ^^^^ Yea that also......^^^^^^^ Running not running, coasting down a hill????????? I guess I should have said what I always say....... Way more info needed................

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        • Tattooo
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 12407

          #5
          Carnac where the Hell are you when we need you?????????????

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          • Easybake323
            Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 35

            #6
            More info

            Originally posted by Easybake323
            Early 70s 4speed ratchet tranny will not go into neutral?? Where should I start ??
            So not running It will not go Into a good solid neutral, I can kinda get it into neutral but as soon as I roll the bike any it clicks and drops into gear. This happens with or without the clutch installed. Got the bike running the other day must have been in a false neutral fucker dropped into gear and took off without me lol!

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            • JBinNC
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2018
              • 2706

              #7
              Originally posted by Easybake323
              So not running It will not go Into a good solid neutral, I can kinda get it into neutral but as soon as I roll the bike any it clicks and drops into gear. This happens with or without the clutch installed. Got the bike running the other day must have been in a false neutral fucker dropped into gear and took off without me lol!
              Is this bike new to you, or are you very familiar with it?

              Jim

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              • Easybake323
                Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 35

                #8
                Originally posted by JBinNC
                Is this bike new to you, or are you very familiar with it?

                Jim
                New to me

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                • Tattooo
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 12407

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Easybake323
                  So not running It will not go Into a good solid neutral,
                  Yep just as I thought in the beginning............. But since it's new to you it could be several things......... It could be something as simple as the trans isn't set up correctly.......

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                  • Tattooo
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 12407

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Easybake323
                    Got the bike running the other day must have been in a false neutral fucker dropped into gear and took off without me lol!

                    I bet that got your attention........ LOL

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                    • Easybake323
                      Member
                      • Oct 2021
                      • 35

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tattooo
                      I bet that got your attention........ LOL
                      Thank god the kick stand caught it! And the grass was wet it just peeled out till I could turn it off.

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                      • Easybake323
                        Member
                        • Oct 2021
                        • 35

                        #12
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                        • JBinNC
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 2706

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Easybake323
                          New to me
                          Are you confident that you know what the shift pattern is, or are you trying to find a neutral between third and fourth? I do not ask this question idly; you would not be the first who has done so.

                          Jim

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                          • Easybake323
                            Member
                            • Oct 2021
                            • 35

                            #14
                            I would assume it’s the same as 99% of the other 4 speeds out there. 1n234

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                            • Easybake323
                              Member
                              • Oct 2021
                              • 35

                              #15
                              I have replaced the easy stuff first , replaced the ratchet springs and the pawls and pawl springs.

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