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    This right here, BlackCloud^^^

    It has to be for you to be worth it, regardless of what direction it's taken because you aren't getting that money back out of it either way. It may take less input to go "all original" but I would be shocked if it took less money part for part, especially if you factor time-is-money, and the effort you will go through to find those original parts.

    I always get a kick out of the guys who list bikes for sale, regardless of flavor, and state how much they have "invested". My thought is always "please tell me who your financial advisor is so I know never to use them".

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    Trust me, I get all of this and agree. I didn't say anything about dumping money into it. I asked about adding a kicker with parts I already own.

    I agree it's funny that people say they want so and so price because they've invested so and so. Those bikes usually stay for sale for a long time.

    I was just talking about simply adding a kicker for the appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    A kicker is a bolt on for that scooter ...

    Going to be needing a swing out kick arm ..
    Thank you Sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCloudSalvage View Post
    LOL I will say that's a hell of a lot nicer than what I started with......... LOL
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    Yeah you definitely turned that thing around!

    And to clarify, I realize I used the term top dollar, but what I really meant was to make a solid profit with minimal effort on this one and thought that the kicker alone would be a cool addition. Noted: the bike is not 100% original. I appreciate that info as I have no idea.

    I do think it's a sweet bike. Kinda want to keep it.. The more I look at it and with all the new top end parts. Honestly it sounds better than any harley I've ever had. It has that nice rhythm to it I've always heard but felt like non of my bikes ever sounded exactly like that. I've had countless bikes thru my hands over the last 10 years and after hearing this bike, for the first time my wife, unsolicited, was like "that sounds awesome, sounds exhilarating"! Haha. I'm proud or her for noticing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCloudSalvage View Post
    And to clarify, I realize I used the term top dollar, but what I really meant was to make a solid profit with minimal effort on this one and thought that the kicker alone would be a cool addition. Noted: the bike is not 100% original. I appreciate that info as I have no idea.
    I have a question...... Can I ask what you paid for it since were talking about making a profit??????

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    I paid $3800, which is honestly the most I've ever paid for a bike upfront. I've certainly put more than that into a bike. I have my keepers and typically every year or so I put together something customized and end up selling it. But, I'm also always looking out for deals that I can scoop up and flip to make a little extra money for the family (aka dump back into more motorcycle stuff)! But actually have done descent with it. I don't force it but always scanning with my morning coffee. If something pops up that I think I can make a few hundred dollars on by just taking a short drive then I'll do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
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    Awesome

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    Ya can't lose by throwing a kicker on it as they come right back off if selling to some collector (sane collectors would leave it installed).

    SC prices don't go high but it's an unusual, interesting bike for the right buyer and if ya keep it a kicker is a very good idea because the stock starter design eats leper anus. Ya can always save the dummy kicker cover for someone who cares (swap meets have piles of them because the shit e-start makes a kicker pretty much mandatory for serious use) when ya sell the bike.

    As for keepers. I don't sell those so I don't really give a fuck about them as "investments". Investments should pay dividends in cash, not (relative) peanuts after many, many years. If I wanted investments I'd put the cash into an index fund. I don't need the "investment" excuse because the difference spread over many years isn't squat.

    If ya want to flip it I'd give it a good detailing then ask mid-fives after taking some very good photos. Charleston has people with money and a lot of selling is about presentation. If it sits for a while buyers will forget any adverts it was in while you tidy it up. Prices are regional and SC prices are trending high for this area right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    A kicker is a bolt on for that scooter ...

    Going to be needing a swing out kick arm ..
    Didn't the factory use two different mainshafts for the last few years of the 4 speeds?

    If it has a threaded mainshaft, it should be a simple ordeal. But I believe some of those later 4 speeds didn't have a threaded mainshaft, and I think that might complicate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCloudSalvage View Post
    I paid $3800, which is honestly the most I've ever paid for a bike upfront.
    I really think your not into that bike much at all...... I believe it's worth much more than that just as it sits....... Those are great sounding bikes like you said.... I think you can keep it just as it is for years and it will just go up in value............ But that's my opinion..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DazedandConfused View Post
    Didn't the factory use two different mainshafts for the last few years of the 4 speeds?

    If it has a threaded mainshaft, it should be a simple ordeal. But I believe some of those later 4 speeds didn't have a threaded mainshaft, and I think that might complicate things.
    36 to 85 kickers are the same ...

    80 to 85 models will need the bearing retainer which incorporates a kick starter stop build in is required ..


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    Thanks again. Good info

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
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    As for keepers. I don't sell those so I don't really give a fuck about them as "investments". Investments should pay dividends in cash, not (relative) peanuts after many, many years. If I wanted investments I'd put the cash into an index fund. I don't need the "investment" excuse because the difference spread over many years isn't squat.

    If ya want to flip it I'd give it a good detailing then ask mid-fives after taking some very good photos. Charleston has people with money and a lot of selling is about presentation. If it sits for a while buyers will forget any adverts it was in while you tidy it up. Prices are regional and SC prices are trending high for this area right now.

    Selling and a little bit of working on bikes has been helpful for me to make a little extra income for my family. Especially when I can just flip them without putting any work in. I told my wife sometimes I feel like tge stereotyped used car dealer! But i've actually made some good buddies by selling bikes and put a good bunch of young folks on their first bike and I'm always willing to hangout, drink a beer and lend a hand with wrenching when problems arise because I had a few people in my life that did the same for me. Now I get people asking me to help find them bikes and such. I enjoy when someone calls me to ask me for help with a problem or advice on a bike.. If I can't help them I turn to Tier 2 Level Support CHOP CULT FORUM!! I'm proud to be friendly, helpful and welcoming among plenty of "cool guys". Selling bikes as a hobby has been a wonderful way for me to be involved in the motorcycle community and I enjoy hunting them down and taking backroad drives to go get them and test riding them around. My approach has been to find good deals that allow me to make a little chunk and not try to make a killing, but sell them fast for a low price and still pass on a good deal to someone else. It's also been nice having a hand in putting bikes back on the road that have been sitting up for years. Giving them a bath, new tires and seals, fluids and a tune up. My buddies always ask me how i find such good deals and I tell them "its not easy waking up at the Crack of noon (I used to work 2nd shift) drinking coffee in bed and searching Craigslist"!

    You are right, it's really just peanuts, especially since I put most of the money back into motorcycles and parts for myself, but it's been a healthy hobby. I should be investing time and money into my house which would actually be an investment.

    Its kinda crazy but With other social media platforms like Instagram their is a huge market out there that makes getting your listing seen by thousands very easy. You can post a bike and use the hashtag #chopperswapper for instance in your text and since thousands of users around the world can "follow" that hashtag, anytime a post is tagged #chopperswapper it will show up in their feed if they wish. It's very useful for parts and such and allows you to communicate instantly with people all who are interested in such things. The same is done for any interest you can think. It's like having your own little website you can use for whatever. On the same note,, you want to be honest and have a good reputation because anyone could call you out publicly to those same thousands of users around the world in 2 seconds flat. Oddly there has been a bunch of fraud scam pages selling chopper parts on their lately. They will copy other people's listing and post them as their own, take people PayPal payment ad friends and family and be gone.
    I've sold more bikes to people out of town than in town. Sight unseen except for a couple pictures and next thing you know you are getting money in your PayPal and a shipping truck comes to pick the bike up. I've even sold 2 to Japan and 1 to the UK which has me thinking of another thread I'm going to start. Work has been super slow all week so I've been enjoying CC.

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    VG thread!

    The HD commercial very cool too.

    and the sound....
    like we used to say back in the day: POTATO-POTATO-POTATO

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