Shimming Trans

[Guest]

I may be Wrong Tattoo, but I do seem to remember having to bolt the plate to the trans before fitting, but it has been about 5 years since I had to remove a Trans,...but I do remember it was a pain in the ass....
seem to remember you cant get to all the bolts if you do it the other way, been a while so might be wrong ? either way, the trans plate must be flat...

[Tattooo]

the trans plate must be flat...

You got that right very flat......

[rockman96]

1) Bolt/shim the motor in the frame
2) Bolt the plate to the motor
3) Set the trans in place and bolt it to the motor plate
4) See what ya got

[Guest]

1)
2) Bolt the plate to the motor

What plate to the motor ?... he's talking Transmission plate

[Dylan529]

So I found a couple things.
The cradle for the adjustment screw was holding up the back of the trans giving me a gap. Think I'll space the cradle down with a washer to give me a flush trans to plate.
I also found that when I lay the plate by itself in the frame it makes contact across the front mount and also the rear left.
So I'm left with a gap on the rear right that's in the pic


Can I shim this between the frame and plate for a flush mount all the way around? The image is upside down.

[Tattooo]

So I found a couple things.
The cradle for the adjustment screw was holding up the back of the trans giving me a gap. Think I'll space the cradle down with a washer to give me a flush trans to plate.
I also found that when I lay the plate by itself in the frame it makes contact across the front mount and also the rear left.
So I'm left with a gap on the rear right that's in the pic
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Can I shim this between the frame and plate for a flush mount all the way around? The image is upside down.

The plate isn't flat you can see it in your pic.......... Did you check to see if it was flat?????????? Is that bolt head hitting the frame????? It looks like it might be............. Please take a further back pic...........

[Guest]

yes you can shim with a washer between the trans plate & the frame, IF the trans plate is flat,
the post on the frame looks like it has had a hard life,
it looks bashed & banged about a bit & dosn't exactly have a square mounting surface,
that with sitting on the adjuster was probably your prolem

[Tattooo]

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Plus shouldn't the adjusting bracket be on the other side of the bracket?????????? The top...... Hell that's from memory.......... Do you have a Harley manual???????

[rockman96]

What plate to the motor ?... he's talking Transmission plate

Like I said in my first post: "A motor plate or inner primary". I know he's talking about a trans plate, but he was asking if he needed to shim it... I was trying to tell him how to figure out what he needed.

Now if the trans plate is rocking, yeah, he needs a new one. If we're talking 0.030", just shim the damn thing... AS LONG AS THE TRANSMISSION IS ALIGNED WITH THE MOTOR! Thats what a motor plate or inner primary will do. Everything is based off the rear engine mount... frames are not perfect.

[Dylan529]

In that picture you can see there's a c hair between the bolt and frame so I know it's no hung up.
The adjuster only catches the bracket in one position and it does match the manual. So that's all good.

I did check the plate against a window. There's a very small amount of rock to it. When I go back and place the trans on the plate I can't even feel it.
I think the picture makes it look worse that it is because the edges of it are kind of ground round a bit

The trans is an early 4 speed there's not any bolt holes to line up or shim to.
It's going to be an open belt no inner primary.
If there's mainshaft to crankshaft alignment procedure someone's going to have to fill me in

[Tattooo]

I did check the plate against a window. There's a very small amount of rock to it.

If it rocks it's junk. Hell it looks bent to me in your pic so it's junk.......... If you want to use it have at it........
Do you fell lucky???? Well do ya??????

[Tattooo]

When I go back and place the trans on the plate I can't even feel it.

Just remember you might not be able to feel it but you can see it isn't sitting flat......... What does the motor look like????? Is it sitting flat??

[Dylan529]

I'll probably use it for laying out the rest of my parts and test running. I'll try and find something original in the meantime though.

[Dylan529]

The motor needs to be shimmed still in the front

[rockman96]

Motor is from a 52 fl.

Disregard what I was saying about a motor plate or inner primary... I just saw this in post#8