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Thanks for all the info. I’m moving soon so I’ll have to double check jetting once I do that. Very good info on the tappet/rod topic. I’ll stick with solids because I do agree with the simplicity. I’ve also heard the hydraulics need adjusting more depending on which ones you have.
As for the dyna S, I have no doubt that that’s what I want in my motor. I was hesitant at first until seeing a couple people on here say they’d had em in a couple of their bikes for 30+ years without any issues. Thanks for mentioning that bit about the mechanical advance though Jim, I would’ve never know or thought about that thing until I was stranded haha.Comment
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Stick with what you have. I have solids in my Ironhead and they work; I have hydraulics in my Shovelhead and they work. Solids are noisy at first if you can hear them over the pipes, and should be checked/adjusted more often, but it’s easy enough to do. Very simple and hard to fuck up. Hydraulics are quieter, can be easier on the valve train, and require little adjustment once set. They are harder to adjust, though , and easier to do wrong. Cost more too. Personally, I wouldn’t spend money switching unless you had to.Comment
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But he doesn't have a drag bike........ Did you ever run points back in the day??????????
I didn't say I didn't like Dyna I was just trying to give him suggestions to help him fix his bike........ Just like you do.........
This was my first post you guys need to read it again.....
{I say points will solve your problems.................... I doubt it's your valve adjustment........ And fix your oil leak..........
Also you really need to get that almost kink out of your fuel line............. That will be a problem in the future...............}Comment
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Oh yea on a drag bike that's the way to go for sure in the modern era of drag bikes............. I'd even bet your drag bikes had a rev limiter in the later years......
But he doesn't have a drag bike........ Did you ever run points back in the day??????????
I didn't say I didn't like Dyna I was just trying to give him suggestions to help him fix his bike........ Just like you do.........
This was my first post you guys need to read it again.....
{I say points will solve your problems.................... I doubt it's your valve adjustment........ And fix your oil leak..........
Also you really need to get that almost kink out of your fuel line............. That will be a problem in the future...............}
Nothing wrong with points, I never said there was. But if the OP has a Dyna S, then points won't 'solve his problem " as you averred. I would agree with rockman, points would be a step backwards. You are of course free to disagree, we each have our own approach to these things.
Jim
P.S. Oh, and no rev limiter on the Pro Drag motor. And ours would run 5800 or so rpm, which is a lot for those old tractors (and idled at 2800 rpm).Comment
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I think you hit it on the head, it is not points per se, but the quality of the condenser that will bite you in the ass. Also you really do need to occasionally lube the points cam or they will eat the rubbing block and that results in a lot of adjustments.
I've cracked more than one old cars distributor open to find some really old points in there that needed nothing more than a file to get the right.Comment
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I think you hit it on the head, it is not points per se, but the quality of the condenser that will bite you in the ass. Also you really do need to occasionally lube the points cam or they will eat the rubbing block and that results in a lot of adjustments.
I've cracked more than one old cars distributor open to find some really old points in there that needed nothing more than a file to get the right.
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Modern ignitions are so fucking cool.
You can tune mine on a laptop. (If you can ever run down the hard to find interface cable) You can put a VOES on it and suck timing out when you crack it or lug it. Solid State. No adjustments, lubing little blocks or any of that crap. Timing is a breeze.
But, I have to say that.. If it ever acts up? (Especially short of just dying outright) There's no good way to diagnose it beyond just buying another one and replacing it to see if that's the problem. If you're beside the road? You better have a $200 dollar module in your saddlebag, or you're fucked.
Electronic ignition is great. Computerized ignition is absolute tops! As long as they work.Comment
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Just saying..............Comment
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It looks like a kink in a picture, it’s just a weird angle.Comment
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I’m going to mess with it all today and if I’m still having a hard time with it I probably will end up switching back to points. Thanks for the suggestion, a lot of my buddies here in Oregon have also said they’ll only do points.
It looks like a kink in a picture, it’s just a weird angle.
Best of luck...........Comment
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