Belt to chain final drive conversion information

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  • Sauerkraut
    Junior Member
    • May 2020
    • 13

    Belt to chain final drive conversion information

    Looking for information on how to convert final drive from belt to chain on a 81 cowpie,

    I have purchased appropriate sprockets and a bearing brace. The brace doesn’t fit properly I’m going to assume because of the longer shaft.

    Anyone have information on how to do this properly? Is a shaft swap the only way?

    If it’s too much work for now, is there a brace to buy to run with an open primary and final belt drive?

    Thanks!
  • JBinNC
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 2714

    #2
    I'm assuming you mean the outboard bearing support. I have run into several of them that won't fit because the bolt holes are in the wrong place. I've had them in hand where some holes were half a hole off. Quality control really sucks these days. This is a simple part, no excuse for making parts that don't fit, but here we are. A mainshaft change will not help your problem.

    Jim

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    • Tattooo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 12407

      #3
      Originally posted by Sauerkraut
      Looking for information on how to convert final drive from belt to chain on a 81 cowpie,

      Thanks!

      Just curious????? What bike do you have to have a rear belt on an 81??????? A FLT???????

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      • JBinNC
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2018
        • 2714

        #4
        Originally posted by Tattooo
        Just curious????? What bike do you have to have a rear belt on an 81??????? A FLT???????
        That would be a Sturgis, mostly.

        Jim

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        • Sauerkraut
          Junior Member
          • May 2020
          • 13

          #5
          Thanks for the reply Jim, I did indeed have to drill the holes out to fit over the studs but the problem is the area that meets the tranny is not long enough, the brace contacts the nut before it can mate to the tranny. I put some spacers on the studs to help it mate but I’m not happy with that solution.

          Tattoo, it is indeed a sturgis model! It’s a chopper in a starke manufacturing frame but the PO kept the belt drive.

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          • JBinNC
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2018
            • 2714

            #6
            With a stock sprocket and stock thin nut with lock plate beneath, you should have clearance. (The stock sprocket & nut assembly does not stand proud of the main drive gear end.)

            Jim

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            • Sauerkraut
              Junior Member
              • May 2020
              • 13

              #7
              I will grab some pictures this afternoon, maybe I got an incorrect tranny sprocket, there is no indent for the nut to sit inside of on this one

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              • JBinNC
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 2714

                #8
                '80 and up sprocket is flat on both sides, no undercut.

                Jim

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                • Sauerkraut
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JBinNC
                  '80 and up sprocket is flat on both sides, no undercut.

                  Jim
                  Here are some pics, the nut is about 5mm away from touching the brace, and the brace is about 10mm away from touching the tranny. Wrong nut maybe? It’s a James. I’ve got the lock washer with folding tabs behind it.

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                  • JBinNC
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 2714

                    #10
                    "Supernut", with seal. Yeah, you can't use that with the bearing support. You need the -36 nut. Also, when replacing a pulley with a sprocket, you need a spacer behind the sprocket that is .06 thick.

                    Jim

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                    • Sauerkraut
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2020
                      • 13

                      #11
                      Awesome, thanks for the info Jim I really appreciate it, that should fix my problem.

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                      • Tattooo
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 12407

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JBinNC
                        That would be a Sturgis, mostly.

                        Jim
                        Awesome, That's good to know........ Didn't a FLT come with a belt in 80 or was that later???? I could go look but you might know............

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                        • JBinNC
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 2714

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tattooo
                          Awesome, That's good to know........ Didn't a FLT come with a belt in 80 or was that later???? I could go look but you might know............
                          I think the FLT chassis had the enclosed chain with the rubber bellows between the inner primary and the chaincase on the swingarm.

                          Jim

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                          • Tattooo
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 12407

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JBinNC
                            I think the FLT chassis had the enclosed chain with the rubber bellows between the inner primary and the chaincase on the swingarm.

                            Jim

                            I remembered something was odd about them........

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                            • JBinNC
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 2714

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tattooo
                              I remembered something was odd about them........
                              God, they were a pain in the ass to work on.

                              Jim

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