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  • Nanonevol
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 306

    ID ths wheel?

    I'd like to fit this wheel on a Buell Blast fork I'm using on my Paugho 45" bike.
    Maybe I don't need to ID it to use it?
    The Buell axle is too thin for the wheels bearings. Just measure and shop for bearings and seals?
    Same with brake rotors?
    Thanks.
  • TriNortchopz
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 3258

    #2
    What diameter is the axle?
    What is the ID of the bearing?
    Depending on size difference,may need to change inner bearing spacer as well.
    May be able to just reduce size of bearing ID by using a shouldered bushing... again,depending on size difference.
    other option, swap bearing for one with same OD, and an ID to match your axle. Got a number on your bearing?
    same with seals.
    match up rotors for BCD,offset and OD.
    If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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    • Nanonevol
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 306

      #3
      Thanks! The axle is maybe metric as it is 17 mm. The inner of bearing is .75" which is 19.05 mm. It's a tapered roller. I'll look for bearings.
      Sorry, what is "BCD"?

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      • TriNortchopz
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 3258

        #4
        Sorry, what is "BCD"?
        Bolt Circle Diameter (BCD) is the diameter of the circle that goes through the center of all of the mounting bolts on your sprocket, rotor...

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        If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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        • Nanonevol
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 306

          #5
          I'm not finding anything that works. Maybe I should look for another wheel?

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          • TriNortchopz
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 3258

            #6
            2-second search for 'tapered roller bearing 17mm id'; first one I looked at:

            17mm x 40mm x 13.25mm E30203J Tapered Roller Bearing
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            If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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            • Nanonevol
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 306

              #7
              The outer diameter needs to be 1 3/4" (44.45mm) to fit the wheel.
              I think I have a metric/imperial mismatch problem here.
              Probably best to look for a Buell wheel.
              Will also need the brake position to match the rotor. Don't know if there is any standardization here.
              Last edited by Nanonevol; 08-16-2021, 3:53 PM.

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              • TriNortchopz
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 3258

                #8
                Originally posted by Nanonevol
                The outer diameter needs to be 1 3/4" (44.45mm) to fit the wheel.
                Is there a problem with the bearing cups (races) that are in the wheel now? Should be able to just find the cone (bearing) with 17mm ID and install it in the existing bearing cup.
                If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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                • Nanonevol
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 306

                  #9
                  Oh, OK. Didn't know I could do that.
                  But I'd need a seal that fits also.
                  Last edited by Nanonevol; 08-16-2021, 4:09 PM.

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                  • TriNortchopz
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3258

                    #10
                    as noted earlier, 17mm ID bushing for axle to fit 3/4" existing bearing... just turn down outside from 20mm to 19.05mm;
                    just one example:

                    20 mm OD X 17 mm ID 1.5 mm THICKNESS 6061 ALUMINUM TUBE PIPE ROUND

                    6061-T6 Aluminum Bare Extruded Tube (OD 20 mm ID 17 mm 1.5 mm THICKNESS 6061) is used for all structural applications where strength is important. 6061-T6 Aluminum has above average corrosion resistance, good machinability, and is excellent for welding.
                    If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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                    • Nanonevol
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 306

                      #11
                      Excellent advice as always,, however,,This Sportster wheel isn't going to work for other reasons. I'm buying a Buell wheel with tire and rotor for $125 and think I can sell this for $250 so why not.
                      Learn something every day.

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                      • Nanonevol
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 306

                        #12
                        Maybe I can get some advice about the rear wheel. First I thought I needed a pair of sealed bearings for a 3/4" axle and 1 3/4" bore
                        but on closer inspection it looks like the wheel has outer bearing races still installed. Not sure what would fit or where to find it.
                        The races seem quite deeply placed (3/4"). Also, would I need a spacer in the middle like many wheels have? Not sure of their purpose.
                        No idea of the wheels maker.

                        Last edited by Nanonevol; 08-20-2021, 3:33 PM.

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                        • TriNortchopz
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 3258

                          #13
                          looks to be a Harley wheel with tapered roller bearings, the races (cups) are still in there. need to be precise about setting up the end play, at about 4 thou. lots of videos online for setting them up.
                          Sure somebody here could further id that wheel as to which model and years it could be.

                          look at this article as an intro:

                          Checking Harley-Davidson tapered wheel bearings

                          How to check Harley-Davidson Timken conical wheel bearings. Step-by-step tutorial, Harley meccanica online. #mecanicaharley



                          Can swap them to standard ball bearings too:

                          Sealed Bearing Kit for 1984-99 Rear Wheels (Timken/Tapered)
                          "This kit is everything you need to swap out those tapered bearings for Sealed Ball bearings.
                          No shimming & packing grease in bearings required, just press in the bearings like a modern wheel.

                          Our kit is made right unlike the other ones out there, the bearings have the correct press and will not slide around.
                          We have made sure the Bearing spacing matches the tapered bearing wheel, so no modifications are needed to the axle spacers.
                          Allows use of OEM wheel seals for extra protection against water & dirt."
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                          • Nanonevol
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 306

                            #14
                            Thanks again TriNortChopz, you're a Master!
                            That sealed bearing kit looks like the way to go. Much simpler and "modern".

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                            • Nanonevol
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 306

                              #15
                              Watched some videos on bearing setup.
                              Looks like a special tool needed to remove the race.
                              I may just take it to the local indy shop.
                              Assume I'd need it out even with the sealed bearing mod.

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