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    Default Narrow Glide to Wide Glide Conversion on Nighster Questions

    Hey Chopcult,

    First time posting on chopcult but I've been reading for information the last few years. I'm thinking of throwing a Wide Glide front end on my 08 Nighster. I haven't done any front end work other than changing fork oil before so I was hoping to get a few questions answered.

    1. The current forks on the Nighty have a monotube upgrade from progressive in them (thanks to Dad who dumped her last year but paid it back with the upgrade). The current front end is a 39 mm narrow glide. If I put a 41mm wide glide front end on them, will I be able to re use the progressive monotube cartidges or will the cartridges require a 39mm wide glide conversion kit?

    and......

    2. Are there other advantages/disadvantages to going with a 41mm wide glide front end over the 39 mm conversion? Availability of Fork braces/fenders/other important bits for the 39mm conversion kit? Weird fork twisting issues? Any issues I'd have throwing longer fork tubes on with the wide glide conversion in the near future?

    Am I overthinking this? Any other tips for the newbie?

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    The use of an actual Wide Glide is purely for appearance but they are IMO an artistic error on Sportsters which are slim and narrow and of course they're sprung for heavier big twins. They look like ass with a 19" front wheel which is why 19s on Wide Glides are rare while either 16"s or 21s are common. (Choppers are folk art and art relies on proportion for visual effect.)

    I suggest looking at "mid glide" kits which are much more proportional to the size of a Sporty and use your existing 39mm fork components and front brake disc and caliper without additional fuckery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    The use of an actual Wide Glide is purely for appearance but they are IMO an artistic error on Sportsters which are slim and narrow and of course they're sprung for heavier big twins. They look like ass with a 19" front wheel which is why 19s on Wide Glides are rare while either 16"s or 21s are common. (Choppers are folk art and art relies on proportion for visual effect.)

    I suggest looking at "mid glide" kits which are much more proportional to the size of a Sporty and use your existing 39mm fork components and front brake disc and caliper without additional fuckery.
    Cool,

    Thanks for your opinion, though I don’t really agree. Either way. You’re saying I need to maintain the 39mm fork tubes to use the existing monotube cartridges.? So a conversion kit might be the way to go to minimize fuckery.

    Thanks for the help!

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    I see a far more serious problem than ruining the bike with ill advised front end fuckery (what farm said) How about ya pour some gas on that hideous seat and light er up? What the fuck is that thing covered with, one of nanna's old urine stench house dresses??? My gawd........oh welcome to CC
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    I would sell the bike and buy an older sportster so you can use the word ironhead

    Putting a wide glide on that bike is like doing plastic surgery to a fat chick

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    I see a far more serious problem than ruining the bike with ill advised front end fuckery (what farm said) How about ya pour some gas on that hideous seat and light er up? What the fuck is that thing covered with, one of nanna's old urine stench house dresses??? My gawd........oh welcome to CC[/QUOTE]

    Yeah it’s a bit controversial. What did you do in quarantine with no money? Keep motorcycles fun man. Chop cult is filled with old ass holes who are stuck in there ways huh? So much for technical advice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradude View Post
    I see a far more serious problem than ruining the bike with ill advised front end fuckery (what farm said) How about ya pour some gas on that hideous seat and light er up? What the fuck is that thing covered with, one of nanna's old urine stench house dresses??? My gawd........oh welcome to CC
    Yeah it’s a bit controversial. What did you do in quarantine with no money? Keep motorcycles fun man. Chop cult is filled with old ass holes who are stuck in there ways huh? So much for technical advice...[/QUOTE]

    You mad bro.......

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    I owned a 77 lowrider that had a 35mm wide installed when bought. The proportions w 19" wheel was OK. The biggest distraction was the 4" X 2" spacers for disc brakes. Yep, 1 on each side. Kinda fugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradude View Post
    I see a far more serious problem than ruining the bike with ill advised front end fuckery (what farm said) How about ya pour some gas on that hideous seat and light er up? What the fuck is that thing covered with, one of nanna's old urine stench house dresses??? My gawd........oh welcome to CC
    Yeah it’s a bit controversial. What did you do in quarantine with no money? Keep motorcycles fun man. Chop cult is filled with old ass holes who are stuck in there ways huh? So much for technical advice...[/QUOTE]

    Whoa whoa whoa you're presumptions are ludicrous bruh...

    "What did you do in quarantine with no money?"

    So you assume I was in some kind of quaramtine and I have no money???



    "CC is filled with old assholes" Yes...but yet here you are!

    How and why do you make this preposterous claim? Old??? How old is "old"

    "Stuck in my ways" Again..?? Wtf?

    "Keep motorcycle fun..man"

    Have you seen the tank I just had lettered for my award-winning Panhead? What is more fun than mocking someone else's bike? Ha ha Ha

    My bagger says "Retard Strong" Again...Very funny and mocking developmentally disabled people with superhuman strength. I LIVE funny

    Let's get back to this seat problem...I mean "controversy" I can't even begin to focus on bastardizing the forks when the seat screams "throw rocks at me"

    Shall we just move this on over to the junk pile now? Ha Ha Ha Ha

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    This is why we cant have nice things.
    I have a bagger lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post
    Yeah it’s a bit controversial. What did you do in quarantine with no money? Keep motorcycles fun man. Chop cult is filled with old ass holes who are stuck in there ways huh? So much for technical advice...
    Whoa whoa whoa you're presumptions are ludicrous bruh...

    "What did you do in quarantine with no money?"

    So you assume I was in some kind of quaramtine and I have no money???



    "CC is filled with old assholes" Yes...but yet here you are!

    How and why do you make this preposterous claim? Old??? How old is "old"

    "Stuck in my ways" Again..?? Wtf?

    "Keep motorcycle fun..man"

    Have you seen the tank I just had lettered for my award-winning Panhead? What is more fun than mocking someone else's bike? Ha ha Ha

    My bagger says "Retard Strong" Again...Very funny and mocking developmentally disabled people with superhuman strength. I LIVE funny

    Let's get back to this seat problem...I mean "controversy" I can't even begin to focus on bastardizing the forks when the seat screams "throw rocks at me"

    Shall we just move this on over to the junk pile now? Ha Ha Ha Ha[/QUOTE]

    Tis true this yuppie scumbag haslots of cash, hell he buys bikes and sends them off to sit for 5 years to be repaired
    He says ill buy this, it should last till my Bison equipped ride is done.

    Its a shame a fer bbq's i meen bad apples ruin it for the rest of us.

    Buy an ironhead, that werd is old schoolz and kustom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post
    Yeah it’s a bit controversial. What did you do in quarantine with no money? Keep motorcycles fun man. Chop cult is filled with old ass holes who are stuck in there ways huh? So much for technical advice...
    Whoa whoa whoa you're presumptions are ludicrous bruh...

    "What did you do in quarantine with no money?"

    So you assume I was in some kind of quaramtine and I have no money???



    "CC is filled with old assholes" Yes...but yet here you are!

    How and why do you make this preposterous claim? Old??? How old is "old"

    "Stuck in my ways" Again..?? Wtf?

    "Keep motorcycle fun..man"

    Have you seen the tank I just had lettered for my award-winning Panhead? What is more fun than mocking someone else's bike? Ha ha Ha

    My bagger says "Retard Strong" Again...Very funny and mocking developmentally disabled people with superhuman strength. I LIVE funny

    Let's get back to this seat problem...I mean "controversy" I can't even begin to focus on bastardizing the forks when the seat screams "throw rocks at me"

    Shall we just move this on over to the junk pile now? Ha Ha Ha Ha[/QUOTE]



    Chill dude. You’re all busting my stones, you want me to just keep quiet? Cool bike

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    @ tater66:

    Yeah that sounds a bit clunky. Definitely re evaluating options, maybe a mid glide instead. Thanks for the actual help man

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    Dont mind bbq, he fucks with all of us.
    Your bike man, do what ya want but to me a sportster is a stepping stone to a nig twin

    I been there as a young man growin up , shit my 1st bike was a triumph i couldn't afford a sporty at 1st

    The point is. Unless all you will ever ride is tgat bike then go for it but ya will never get what you have into it.
    My opinion is it will look like poop let alone any ridable changes.

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    Dude don't have such a thin skin we're busting balls but we're also keeping you on the proper path

    You don't bolt big twin parts onto a sportster it's just wrong I don't know what else to tell youl keep it skinny keep it small beat the fuck out of it and then when it comes time to step up to the big twin you can get almost all of your $1,500 back

    I didn't even say girls bike or mention a seat cover at all see I am growing as a person
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    Yeah I’m not losing sleep over an Internet forum so no worries there...

    My first bike was an 82 or 81 Suzuki gs650 and I did a limited budget cafe thing to it 10 years ago. Turned out cool but those mid controls are brutal and I’m not in my 20s anymore. Trying something different this time around. I’ve had the bike for a few years now. I have never done anything too involved front end wise. just basic ascetics and stage one up grades. I’m not worried about the goofy looks or getting money back, but the ride ability is concerning as I’d like to put some longer fork tubes on it too. That will add additional handling issues I’m sure. If it’s going to ride like shit with a wide glide front end on but not with a mid glide front end on it, well that might be all the information I need.

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    If you wanna ride higher and possibly better? Just get the suspension from an XL 1200 sport it had the better shocks better forks and dual disk front end if I recall. A solid upgrade



    Really this is the only Sportster I would ride after doubling the horsepower with some crazy motor work and then still I would look like a beanbag riding a raisin

    Wow looky here the BBQBIKER can be helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post

    You don't bolt big twin parts onto a sportster it's just wrong

    Yet its perfectly fine to bolt Sportster shit to a big twin. FX anyone ? Or the millions and I mean millions of sporty tanks on everything. Go figure.

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    I have a newer sportster like yours man. I can’t imagine a wide glide front end on that. I’d go for a mid glide kinda like the 48. That’d be more proportional. Plus parts would be easier to come by.

    Edit: Oh, and start off by posting in the Sportster section. You’ll probably get a little less flame.

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    If you prefer full Wide Glide width then go for it. There are multiple ways to do that too of course.

    Full "Wide Glide width" conversion kits exist to use your stock tubes. Example, check with them for details as I've not seen nor personally used that kit and I don't vouch for what I don't know but their reputation is excellent. You can check with their tech support if you want to compare installing larger OD Wide Glide forks instead of retaining what you have. (You can always Ebay the leftovers).

    https://secure.vulcanworks.net/store...ack-4373B.html

    You need to maintain the existing 39mm fork tubes to use the cartridges because they're designed for that internal fork tube bore size. If you don't want the 39mm forks then sell them with the cartridge and be happy. Never marry what you can pimp.

    Want a complete 41mm drop in with single or dual disc? https://secure.vulcanworks.net/store...ees-Black.html


    BBQ's rants had one good point (even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then) and that's running a dual disc front end. The correct fork sliders are available and there are multiple threads on the conversion on various forums including parts lists.

    I made the mistake of ordering from Ronnies and had to interrogate them by email when my order was delayed because I wasn't notified it was held for some parts being out of stock, but Surdyke live chat was helpful and verified they had the right side fork slider I wanted before I ordered. Mine's an earlier model than yours which should have the larger axle and sealed bearings. I now use Ronnie's online lookup then order from Surdyke. (If any Ronnie's personnel read this, your customer service ain't famed for quality. If you fix that you can have some of my money. I don't hold grudges.)

    Your conversion right side slider should be here: https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...TEERING%20STEM

    While the 1200R forks complete go for stupid money used when they rarely show up, all you need are a slider, rotor, caliper and brake line (I'd go braided). I run duals without changing master cylinders but I take my time bleeding them. I like the improved hydraulic leverage.

    Harleys are cool because you have so many choices, but the choices need researching to keep the pile of parts that didn't fit reasonable...
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