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    Vermin Supreme for President

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    fuck that asshole

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    Yeah you lost me at "Trumps fault" Which basically shows you have the IQ of a cabbage

    Fuck you fuck the Chinese we should nuke Wuhan where the virus actually started and those filthy slant eyed fuckers hid it from the world until it was too late...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post
    Yeah you lost me at "Trumps fault" Which basically shows you have the IQ of a cabbage

    Fuck you fuck the Chinese we should nuke Wuhan where the virus actually started and those filthy slant eyed fuckers hid it from the world until it was too late...
    Hummmmm

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    If T rump handled it well why does he continue to try to rewrite history and just lie in general? I'm sure we should blame the Chinese for T Rump not listening to his security briefings! WTF
    In the 19 days since he declared the coronavirus pandemic a national emergency, President Donald Trump has repeatedly lied about this once-in-a-generation crisis.

    Here, a collection of the biggest lies he’s told as the nation barrels toward a public-health and economic calamity. This post will be updated as needed.

    On the Nature of the Virus

    When: Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19
    The claim: The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”
    The truth: It’s too early to tell if the virus’s spread will be dampened by warmer conditions. Respiratory viruses can be seasonal, but the World Health Organization says that the new coronavirus “can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather.”

    When: Thursday, February 27
    The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”
    The truth: Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned days later that he was concerned that “as the next week or two or three go by, we’re going to see a lot more community-related cases.”

    MORE STORIES

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    When: Monday, March 23; Tuesday, March 24; and Sunday, March 29
    The claim: If the economic shutdown continues, deaths by suicide “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about” for COVID-19 deaths.
    The truth: The White House now estimates that anywhere from 100,000 to 240,000 Americans could die from COVID-19. Other estimates have placed the number at 1.1 million to 1.2 million. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, suicide is one of the leading causes of death in the United States. But the number of people who died by suicide in 2017, for example, was roughly 47,000, nowhere near the COVID-19 estimates. Estimates of the mental-health toll of the Great Recession are mixed. A 2014 study tied more than 10,000 suicides in Europe and North America to the financial crisis. But a larger analysis in 2017 found that while the rate of suicide was increasing in the United States, the increase could not be directly tied to the recession and was attributable to broader socioeconomic conditions predating the downturn.

    Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes: Trump can’t even imitate a normal president

    Blaming the Obama Administration

    When: Wednesday, March 4
    The claim: The Trump White House rolled back Food and Drug Administration regulations that limited the kind of laboratory tests states could run and how they could conduct them. “The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we’re doing,” Trump said.
    The truth: The Obama administration drafted, but never implemented, changes to rules that regulate laboratory tests run by states. Trump’s policy change relaxed an FDA requirement that would have forced private labs to wait for FDA authorization to conduct their own, non-CDC-approved coronavirus tests.

    When: Friday, March 13
    The claim: The Obama White House’s response to the H1N1 pandemic was “a full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now.”
    The truth: Barack Obama declared a public-health emergency two weeks after the first U.S. cases of H1N1 were reported, in California. (Trump declared a national emergency more than seven weeks after the first domestic COVID-19 case was reported, in Washington State.) While testing is a problem now, it wasn’t back in 2009. The challenge then was vaccine development: Production was delayed and the vaccine wasn’t distributed until the outbreak was already waning.

    On Coronavirus Testing

    When: Friday, March 6
    The claim: “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. We—they’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.”
    The truth: The country’s testing capabilities are severely limited. Many states have experienced a lack of testing kits, as my colleagues Alexis Madrigal and Robinson Meyer have reported. Trump made this claim one day after his own vice president, Mike Pence, admitted that “we don’t have enough tests today to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward.”

    When: Wednesday, March 11
    The claim: In an Oval Office address, Trump said that private-health-insurance companies had “agreed to waive all co-payments for coronavirus treatments, extend insurance coverage to these treatments, and to prevent surprise medical billing.”
    The truth: Insurers agreed only to absorb the cost of coronavirus testing—waiving co-pays and deductibles for getting the test. The Families First Coronavirus Response Act, the second coronavirus-relief bill passed by Congress, later mandated that COVID-19 testing be made free. The federal government has not required insurance companies to cover follow-up treatments, though some providers announced in late March that they will pay for treatments. The costs of other non-coronavirus testing or treatment incurred by patients who have COVID-19 or are trying to get a diagnosis aren’t waived either. And as for surprise medical billing? Mitigating it would require the cooperation of insurers, doctors, and hospitals.

    Read: The dangerous delays in U.S. coronavirus testing haven’t stopped

    When: Friday, March 13
    The claim: Google engineers are building a website to help Americans determine whether they need testing for the coronavirus and to direct them to their nearest testing site.
    The truth: The announcement was news to Google itself—the website Trump (and other administration officials) described was actually being built by Verily, a division of Alphabet, the parent company of Google. The Verge first reported on Trump’s error, citing a Google representative who confirmed that Verily was working on a “triage website” with limited coverage for the San Francisco Bay Area. But since then, Google has pivoted to fulfill Trump’s public proclamation, saying it would speed up the development of a new, separate website while Verily worked on finishing its project, The Washington Post reported.

    When: Tuesday, March 24, and Wednesday, March 25
    The claim: The United States has outpaced South Korea’s COVID-19 testing: “We’re going up proportionally very rapidly,” Trump said during a Fox News town hall.
    The truth: When the president made this claim, testing in the U.S. was severely lagging behind that in South Korea. As of March 25, South Korea had conducted about five times as many tests as a proportion of its population relative to the United States. For updated data from each country, see the COVID-19 Tracking Project and the database maintained by the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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    All the lies wouldn't fit in one post!
    On Travel Bans and Travelers

    When: Wednesday, March 11
    The claim: The United States would suspend “all travel from Europe, except the United Kingdom, for the next 30 days,” Trump announced in an Oval Office address.
    The truth: The travel restriction would not apply to U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents, or their families returning from Europe. At first, it applied specifically to the 26 European countries that make up the Schengen Area, not all of Europe. Trump later announced the inclusion of the United Kingdom and Ireland in the ban.

    Another claim: In the same address, Trump said the travel restrictions would “not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo but various other things as we get approval.”
    The truth: Trump followed up in a tweet, explaining that trade and cargo would not be subject to the restrictions.

    When: Thursday, March 12
    The claim: All U.S. citizens arriving from Europe would be subject to medical screening, COVID-19 testing, and quarantine if necessary. “If an American is coming back or anybody is coming back, we’re testing,” Trump said. “We have a tremendous testing setup where people coming in have to be tested … We’re not putting them on planes if it shows positive, but if they do come here, we’re quarantining.”
    The truth: Testing is already severely limited in the United States. It is not true that all Americans returning to the country are being tested, nor that anyone is being forced to quarantine, CNN has reported.

    When: Tuesday, March 31
    The claim: “We stopped all of Europe” with a travel ban. “We started with certain parts of Italy, and then all of Italy. Then we saw Spain. Then I said, ‘Stop Europe; let’s stop Europe. We have to stop them from coming here.’”
    The truth: The travel ban applied to the Schengen Area, as well as the United Kingdom and Ireland, and not all of Europe as he claimed. Additionally, Trump is wrong about the United States rolling out a piecemeal ban. The State Department did issue advisories in late February cautioning Americans against travel to the Lombardy region of Italy before issuing a general “Do Not Travel” warning on March 19. But the U.S. never placed individual bans on Italy and Spain.

    On Taking the Pandemic Seriously

    When: Tuesday, March 17
    The claim: “I’ve always known this is a real—this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic … I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
    The truth: Trump has repeatedly downplayed the significance of COVID-19 as outbreaks began stateside. From calling criticism of his handling of the virus a “hoax,” to comparing the coronavirus to a common flu, to worrying about letting sick Americans off cruise ships because they would increase the number of confirmed cases, Trump has used his public statements to send mixed messages and sow doubt about the outbreak’s seriousness.

    When: Thursday, March 26
    The claim: This kind of pandemic “was something nobody thought could happen … Nobody would have ever thought a thing like this could have happened.”
    The truth: Experts both inside and outside the federal government sounded the alarm many times in the past decade about the potential for a devastating global pandemic, as my colleague Uri Friedman has reported. Two years ago, my colleague Ed Yong explored the legacy of Ebola outbreaks—including the devastating 2014 epidemic—to evaluate how ready the U.S. was for a pandemic. Ebola hardly impacted America—but it revealed how unprepared the country was.

    On COVID-19 Treatments and Vaccines

    When: Monday, March 2
    The claim: Pharmaceutical companies are going “to have vaccines, I think, relatively soon.”
    The truth: The president’s own experts told him during a White House meeting with pharmaceutical leaders earlier that same day that a vaccine could take a year to 18 months to develop. In response, he said he would prefer if it took only a few months. He later claimed, at a campaign rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, that a vaccine would be ready “soon.”

    When: Thursday, March 19
    The claim: At a press briefing with his coronavirus task force, Trump said the FDA had approved the antimalarial drug chloroquine to treat COVID-19. “Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like that, and it’s—it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved by prescription,” he said.
    The truth: FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn, who was at the briefing, quickly clarified that the drug still had to be tested in a clinical setting. An FDA representative later told Bloomberg that the drug has not been approved for COVID-19 use, though a doctor could still prescribe it for that purpose. Later that same day, Fauci told CNN that there is no “magic drug” to cure COVID-19: “Today, there are no proven safe and effective therapies for the coronavirus.”

    Read: Anthony Fauci’s plan to stay honest

    On the Defense Production Act

    When: Friday, March 20
    The claim: Trump twice said during a task-force briefing that he had invoked the Defense Production Act, a Korean War–era law that enables the federal government to order private industry to produce certain items and materials for national use. He also said the federal government was already using its authority under the law: “We have a lot of people working very hard to do ventilators and various other things.”
    The truth: Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator Peter Gaynor told CNN on March 22 that the president has not actually used the DPA to order private companies to produce anything. Shortly after that, Trump backtracked, saying that he had not compelled private companies to take action. Then, on March 24, Gaynor told CNN that FEMA plans to use the DPA to allocate 60,000 test kits. Trump tweeted afterward that the DPA would not be used.

    When: Saturday, March 21
    The claim: Automobile companies that have volunteered to manufacture medical equipment, such as ventilators, are “making them right now.”
    The truth: Ford and General Motors, which Trump mentioned at a task-force briefing the same day, announced earlier in March that they had halted all factory production in North America and were likely months away from beginning production of ventilators, representatives told the Associated Press. Since then, Ford CEO James Hackett told CNN that the auto company will begin to work with 3M to produce respirators and with General Electric to assemble ventilators. GM said it will explore the possibility of producing ventilators in an Indiana factory. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, whose company Trump highlighted in a tweet, has said that the company is “working on ventilators” but that they cannot be produced “instantly.”

    On States’ Resources

    When: Tuesday, March 24
    The claim: Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York passed on an opportunity to purchase 16,000 ventilators at a low cost in 2015, Trump said during the Fox News town hall.
    The truth: Trump seems to have gleaned this claim from a Gateway Pundit article. That piece, in turn, cites a syndicated column from Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, which includes a figure close to 16,000. The number comes from a 2015 report from the state’s health department that provided guidance for how New York could handle a possible flu pandemic. The report notes that the state would need 15,783 more ventilators than it had at the time to aid patients during “an influenza pandemic on the scale of the 1918 pandemic.” The report does not include a recommendation to Cuomo for additional purchases or stockpiling. Trump “obviously didn’t read the document he’s citing,” a Cuomo representative said in a statement.

    Another claim: Trump also repeated a claim from the Gateway Pundit article that Cuomo’s office established “death panels” and “lotteries” as part of the state’s pandemic response.
    The truth: The 2015 report and the accompanying press release announced updated guidelines for hospitals to follow to allocate ventilators. The guidelines “call for a triage officer or triage committee to determine who receives or continues to receive ventilator therapy” and describes how a random lottery allocation might work. (Neither should be the first options for deciding care, the report notes.) Cuomo never established a lottery.

    When: Sunday, March 29
    The claim: Trump “didn’t say” that governors do not need all the medical equipment they are requesting from the federal government. And he “didn’t say” that governors should be more appreciative of the help.
    The truth: The president told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Thursday, March 26, that “a lot of equipment’s being asked for that I don’t think they’ll need,” referring to requests from the governors of Michigan, New York, and Washington. He also said, during a Friday, March 27, task-force briefing, that he wanted state leaders “to be appreciative … We’ve done a great job.” He added that he wasn’t talking about himself, but about others within the federal government working to combat the pandemic.

    When: Sunday, March 29, and Monday, March 30
    The claim: Hospitals are reporting an artificially inflated need for masks and equipment, items that might be “going out the back door,” Trump said on two separate days. He also said he was not talking about hoarding: “I think maybe it’s worse than hoarding.”
    The truth: There is no evidence to show that hospitals are maliciously hoarding or inflating their need for masks and personal protective equipment when reporting shortages in supplies. Although Cuomo reported anecdotal stories of thefts from hospitals early in March, he was referring to opportunists trying to price-gouge early in the pandemic. Reuters has reported a handful of stories of nurses hiding masks to conserve supplies amid shortages, but not wide-scale thefts as Trump claimed.

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    Todd a.k.a. 'that FGM guy' needs to vent...It's entertaining and sad too.

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    Hey Dusty it seems to me the same people that were sobbing and screaming at the sky on election night 2016 are the same ones that “blame Trump“ for the worldwide pandemic why don’t you do a write up on the actual source, China??? Hmmmm?

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    Please do that Dusty!

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    Well get a load of this, (and know that I love facts and not conspiracy theories) A work buddy of mine was seriously ill and off work , Dec, Jan time. He's just resigned , and I asked him what was up back then. He told me that he'd ended up on a ventilator, and displayed all the symptoms of Covid-19! Wasn't this prior to the announcement of the outbreak in Wuhan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoghead View Post
    Well get a load of this, (and know that I love facts and not conspiracy theories) A work buddy of mine was seriously ill and off work , Dec, Jan time. He's just resigned , and I asked him what was up back then. He told me that he'd ended up on a ventilator, and displayed all the symptoms of Covid-19! Wasn't this prior to the announcement of the outbreak in Wuhan?
    It's not like it couldn't be something unrelated (symptoms are somewhat general), but that certainly is interesting. Had he traveled or anything at the time?

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    Well, it had the hospital confused at the time. I know he'd been nowhere lately, but his kids live all over. The kicker was the recurring cough, high temperature , then being in an intensive care unit as he couldn't breathe unassisted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post
    Hey Dusty it seems to me the same people that were sobbing and screaming at the sky on election night 2016 are the same ones that “blame Trump“ for the worldwide pandemic why don’t you do a write up on the actual source, China??? Hmmmm?
    Well I would but the labs studying the genetic history say that the virus actually started in europe. And what does the origin of the virus have to do with Trump lying to the American people and letting the virus run rampant while he is saying it is just a left wing hoax?
    Dusty

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    Hoghead we knew about it in January

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefdrippings View Post
    Hoghead we knew about it in January
    And Trump cut off all travel to/from China in January... Only to be pounded and ridiculed by the damn democrats for doing it way too soon.

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    Way too many people on this site talk about the evils of
    Govt over reach yet continue to suck Trump’s cock at every
    opportunity. It’s ruining this site. Even if what you’re saying
    were true,he was the one saying doctors were surprised
    how much he knew about this stuff,it would wash away,and
    that it wasn’t as bad as the flu. Nobody is blaming him for
    the pandemic,but if you think he did a good job at handling
    this you’re drinking the govt kool aid and you look like a fucking
    idiot. Almost as much as he does every time he opens his
    mouth. When a Dem president is elected I wonder how much
    slack you’ll give them for making decisions based solely on
    pissing off those who didn’t vote for him. Keep drinking the
    kool aid loyal subjects

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    No matter what the official response from our government to this pandemic is or was, if there is a Republican in office then the response will always be labeled as mismanagement and failure by the idiot dumbocRATS and their fake news media accomplices. NO MATTER WHAT Trump says or does.

    You can’t have it both ways the idiot democrats claim that “we knew this was coming” yet what were they doing to prepare the nation? Pursuing their doomed impeachment of the president to score political points because they cannot beat him at the ballot box this is what half of the government was doing to prepare you for a pandemic. Pursuing a doomed political endeavor with a predetermined outcome in order to score political points. Let that sink in.

    I blame China! My stickers came in let me know if you want any

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    BBQ spewing more bullshit in Defense of his beloved king. Drunk on fucking kool aid. You just repeat what you see him say like a good subject. You’ve fallen right in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefdrippings View Post
    1) Way too many people on this site talk about the evils of
    Govt over reach yet continue to suck Trump’s cock at every
    opportunity. It’s ruining this site.

    First, no one on this end is sucking Trumps cock. But he HAS done a better all around job than anyone in the past several administrations. Ruining the site? This is the Junk Pile… Don’t like it? Look away.


    2) Even if what you’re saying
    were true,he was the one saying doctors were surprised
    how much he knew about this stuff,it would wash away,and
    that it wasn’t as bad as the flu. Nobody is blaming him for
    the pandemic,but if you think he did a good job at handling
    this you’re drinking the govt kool aid and you look like a fucking
    idiot.

    It IS true. He closed off China/US travels in late January. Fucktards like Pelosi, Biden, and the rest condemned his actions, saying it was “too much too soon”. Now they’re saying he didn’t do enough, soon enough. Those who deny this are the ones who look like fucking idiots. As far as Trump running his mouth building himself up? I definitely wish he would STFU sometimes, but I can overlook it in light of what he has accomplished. It’s only words. Hell, it’s funny sometimes, especially when the demtards and media totally lose their shit over it.

    When a Dem president is elected I wonder how much
    slack you’ll give them for making decisions based solely on
    pissing off those who didn’t vote for him. Keep drinking the
    kool aid loyal subjects

    No slack, none deserved. Trump has accomplished almost everything he said he would do, which is what I based my vote on, so I’m satisfied. Obviously, some people here would like to see the US continue the downward spiral on all levels that we have seen over the last 30+ years, but not me. The dems have proven that they have zero interest in maintaining US sovereignty and everything that goes with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbqbiker View Post
    No matter what the official response from our government to this pandemic is or was, if there is a Republican in office then the response will always be labeled as mismanagement and failure by the idiot dumbocRATS and their fake news media accomplices. NO MATTER WHAT Trump says or does.

    You can’t have it both ways the idiot democrats claim that “we knew this was coming” yet what were they doing to prepare the nation? Pursuing their doomed impeachment of the president to score political points because they cannot beat him at the ballot box this is what half of the government was doing to prepare you for a pandemic. Pursuing a doomed political endeavor with a predetermined outcome in order to score political points. Let that sink in.
    Well said BBQ.
    As blatant as they were in their lies and agendas, it is shocking to me how many people still support them. Talk about drinking fucking koolaid and sucking cocks… Who is it that look like fucking idiots?

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