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    Does proper freakout etiquette dictate that one runs clockwise or counterclockwise circles, while screaming and frenetically waving their arms?

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    I was a bigger idiot that usual, I stried to dig a very small metal sliver out of my index finger,(with a pin laying by the computer) thought I got it, seemed fine, a day or two later my finger and half my hand swelled up and was pretty painfull, went to emergency, they sent me to plasic surgeon hand specialist, she said surgery right away to flush out the infection in the tendon sheath, (ya I dug deep) anyways, I didn't see the hospital staff running around with masks on so that tells me the skys no falling just yet, just like flying in bad weather, don't worry till the pilot starts to sweat. I keep a stash of stuff that will keep me going for a few weeks all the time anyways. Click image for larger version. 

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    The grocery store I go to here was out of toilet paper completely. I guess top ramen noodles are a hot item also, as they were nearly picked clean. Was at the meat dept, it had a few empty spots. Guy comes up beside me, I tell him well we can buy meat but no toilet paper. Guy looks at me and says "well you know you can buy Cuomos book for 5 bucks" I about bust a gut!

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    What's Covid 19? All I know about is the 2020 Toilet Paper Shortage.

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    im selling toilet paper on chopperswapper 10 bucks a roll

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    Its all a conspiracy i think its the bastards who produce toilet paper and pasta that are behind covid 19 ������

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    Well...I got back Saturday from a little putt through Georgia, N & S Carolina, Virginia, & back home to Tn. The answer is counterclockwise .

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    The long lived plot to emerge all Countries into a single One World Centralized Government
    aka New World Order (Dictatorship) has had one huge obstacle in It's way.

    The United States of America And It's armed citizens.

    The U.S.A. has been under a covert attack (War of Attrition) The time is here for
    the final death blow, everything is in place for Martial Law (Remember the Jade Helm Exercises?)
    Followed by Your Big Brother "Savior" to administer the soon to be mandatory shot to "save " You
    from certain death (From the Real or fake virus).

    All that is needed now is the right Crisis, And a bio weapon germ is the perfect excuse to kick it all
    off, & the masses of dumbed down, apathetic, & Scared Sheeple will be begging for It.
    (Especially after the food supply chain is broken & Society goes into melt down).

    Please prove Me wrong.
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    Please prove Me wrong.
    That's not how debate works. Onus probandi, the burden of proof, is on the person making the assertion.
    This example link supports my assertion:
    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...urden-of-Proof
    Example #1:

    Jack: I have tiny, invisible unicorns living in my anus.

    Nick: How do you figure?

    Jack: Can you prove that I don't?

    Nick: No.

    Jack: Then I do.

    Explanation: Jack made a claim that requires justification. Nick asked for the evidence, but Jack shifted the burden of proof to Nick. When Nick was unable to refute Jack's (unfalsifiable) claim, Jack claimed victory.
    The "prove me wrong" meme is so old there's a Latin term for it, argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument from ignorance). Educate yourself on how fallacies work because they're constantly used to manipulate public debate.

    Deconstruct everything you are told and everything you believe using critical thinking, facts, logic and reason, especially ideas you really find appealing because they "explain" a rather random world. Both superstition/religion and conspiracy theory are comforting because they confer imagined insight into a scary world. Question everything thoroughly to weed out bullshit.

    mandatory shot to "save " You from certain death (From the Real or fake virus).
    Straw man argument. COVID is far from causing "certain death", and if it were "fake" then it would be a non-starter because the global medical community would have found that out instantly. Technology is magic to those who refuse to learn, but medicine is not magic in real life. Please take some time to educate yourself. You have centuries of human knowledge at your fingertips. Learn how to think instead of assuming you know, because no one magically learns advanced reasoning without deliberate effort. Humans take for granted what the mass of ignorants around them believe but you don't have to do that. Humans accept lazy defaults and tend to believe internet forwards and memes. You don't have to do that or be limited to the garbage US public school "education" which exists to turn out minimally qualified workers. There's plenty of useful information and knowledge to explore, and if you DON'T do that then other people can mind fuck you into following popular (but illogical and absurd) beliefs.

    The easiest way to con someone isn't to challenge them, it's to offer them a explanation they want to believe. For example Jim Baker selling colloidal silver as a coronavirus cure is appealing to his intellectually disarmed target audience because it plays on their fears, their deliberately and desperately blind faith, and their desire to be part of an insider group who offer a solution to something which scares them. They don't know how to understand this paragraph because no one taught them logic, reason, or how to spot fallacies. Grifters are wonderful at what they do and Baker knows his targets. Someone prepared would instantly write off Jim Baker as a con man, scorn his lies, and move on. Vulnerable people don't have the philosophic "antibodies" to being tricked because those responsible for their childhood education didn't value independent thought.

    Everyone can learn to think. Our current trash populist culture discourages that in the middle class and below. Religion is threatened by freedom of thought and the US is frothingly superstitious as befits a country founded by many religious fanatics. Advertisers and politicians don't want us to think. The brilliant Russian trolls find all sides in the US easy pickings because Americans were taught to be proud to be simple. (I admire those guys, they're worthy opponents.)

    We study engines, gearboxes, paint and wiring because we know if we don't we'll be helpless. The rest of life is like that too. Learning is fun at any age. Explore! That will make you much harder for the bad guys to fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    Question everything thoroughly to weed out bullshit.
    This goes a LONG way to determining facts,

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    Anybody trade stocks? This corona paranoia is going to make a lot of people a lot of money when it finally flames out.

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    There are some silver linings to this pandemic for some people. Environmentalists have to love the fact that cruise ships and planes are idled; these are huge polluters. Liberals have to love that the State is dictating almost every facet of our lives. Conspiracy nuts have a new conspiracy to dwell on for hours as they self isolate. People can blow off visiting Nana in the rest home for a couple of months. And a lot of us can work on shit in our garages after telling our loved ones we would have loved to go out and do something fun but you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by confab View Post
    Anybody trade stocks? This corona paranoia is going to make a lot of people a lot of money when it finally flames out.
    Just got off the phone with my broker. We discussed 1) not selling anything right now as the market will eventually recover and 2) watching for Disney to hit bottom so we can buy a bunch more. ( My Disney stock continues to outperform the market year after year, it is just a good solid stock )

    The thing about Disney stock is when people come out of something like this they want to get away and after being cooped up at home with the kids for a few months those parks and movies are going to look pretty dang good to a lot of people.

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    Crosspost of mine from another forum where adult information was needed:

    BEWARE OF EMAIL FORWARDS. They're almost always pop culture bullshit and unsourced or poorly sourced. NEVER FORWARD THEM because they just add noise, not information. Reasons do not exist to rely on random inputs when we have direct access to scientific and medical information from reasonably credible sources. We laugh at Hindus drinking piss to ward off COVID so let's not be tricked into thinking like them,

    It is logical to use the same resources professionals use. It is not logical to want anything inferior.
    CDC is a credible source. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...s/summary.html It is subject to constant professional scrutiny and peer review.. Some random shitbag bulk spamming our inboxes is not a credible source. Know the difference.
    ECDC. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en

    Johns Hopkins should need no introduction nor should Harvard:
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/
    https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...esource-center

    When you read "Experts suggest" with no links to those purported experts (which themselves should pass a credibility test) that's an instant red flag. Why not read what real experts have to say?

    Remember every layer of "translation" between original sources and the reader adds errors. For example the editors and writers of your local newspaper may be very nice people but unless they're experts there's no reason to bother with them.

    Myths should be debunked and exposed because they help spread disease.
    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...th-versus-fact

    BTW people who KNOW how to fit test respirators and gas masks (vets, first responders, etc) could benefit but the little dust mask style masks don't do much compared to serious NBC gear because they don't seat firmly. Since most people would just waste them because they've no concept of self-decontamination it's better for society to limit their use to conserve them. The toilet paper hoarding mongoloids have no business squandering limited resources needed by the same medical professionals who take the concentrated risk of treating them when they get sick.

    Your tax dollars paid for the nice folks at Fort Detrick to do live NBC tests on protection systems. The military TMs etc are available online.

    Hand washing helps but not contaminating hands in the first place is even better. Protect thy meat sponges!
    Being curious about gloves I found a professional reference that goes into detail. Vets know NBC protection requires gloves but the military issue gloves suck for precise work.
    https://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/bestpr...receivers.html
    No single glove or boot material will protect against every substance. Most glove manufacturers offer detailed guides to glove materials and their chemical resistance. Butyl rubber gloves generally provide better protection than nitrile gloves for chemical warfare agents and most toxic industrial chemicals that are more likely to be involved in a terrorist incident, although the converse applies to some industrial chemicals. Foil-based gloves are highly resistant to a wide variety of hazardous substances and could also be considered when determining an appropriate protective ensemble. Hospitals must select materials that cover the specific substances that the hospital has determined first receivers reasonably might encounter. However, given the broad scope of potential contaminants, OSHA considers it of vital importance for hospitals also to select materials that protect against a wide range of substances. A double layer of gloves, made of two different materials, or foil-based gloves resist the broadest range of chemicals.

    In general, the same material selected for gloves will also be appropriate for boots. Because boot walls tend to be thicker than gloves, boots of any material are likely to be more protective than gloves of the same material.

    A combination of gloves, for example, butyl gloves worn over inner nitrile gloves, are often the best option for use by hospital workers during emergencies and mass casualties involving hazardous substances. However, hospitals are advised to select the combination that best meet their specific needs.

    Glove thickness is measured in mils, with a higher number of mils indicating a thicker glove. Using common examples, exam gloves are often approximately 4 mil, while general-purpose household (kitchen) gloves are 12-16 mil, and heavy industrial gloves might be 20 to 30 mil.

    Depending on the dexterity needed by the hospital worker, the glove selection can be modified to allow for the use of a glove combination that is thinner than that usually recommended for the best protection. As an example, the U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine (USACHPPM) recommends that hospital personnel working with victims potentially contaminated with chemical warfare agents or toxic industrial chemicals wear a combination of chemical protective gloves, such as butyl rubber gloves over inner nitrile gloves (USACHPPM, 2003a).35 Because thicker gloves offer greater protection, USACHPPM recommends a butyl glove with a minimum thickness of 14 mil (over a 4 or 5 mil nitrile glove). However, with increased thickness comes greater loss of manual dexterity. When advanced medical procedures must be performed before decontamination, thicker gloves might be too awkward, and, therefore, it might be necessary to use a butyl rubber glove of 7 mil over the nitrile glove, or a 14 mil butyl rubber glove alone (USACHPPM, 2003a). If sterility is required and decontamination is not possible before procedures, a double layer of disposable 4 to 5 mil nitrile gloves might be the best option (USACHPPM, 2003a). Not all sources recommend double gloves; for example, the U.S. Army Soldier and Biological Chemical Command's (SBCCOM) Domestic Preparedness Program (DPP) recommends butyl rubber gloves for personnel performing decontamination operations and casualty care (SBCCOM, 2000a). Among the sterile gloves readily available, those made of nitrile offer the best resistance to the widest range of substances (but not all). Note that thinner gloves deteriorate (tear and rip) more rapidly than thicker gloves. When thinner gloves must be used, they should be changed frequently.

    Hendler et al. (2000), as cited in USACHPPM (2003a), conducted a study to determine the effect of full PPE (including 12-mil "tactile" gloves and a full facepiece mask) on intubation performance. Clinicians wearing this equipment could perform endotracheal intubation effectively (i.e., the tube was inserted in sufficient time), but the procedure did take longer than it would have without PPE. Intubation delays would cause subsequent decontamination procedures and medical treatment to be delayed by a corresponding amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelator View Post
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    The long lived plot to emerge all Countries into a single One World Centralized Government
    aka New World Order (Dictatorship) has had one huge obstacle in It's way.

    The United States of America And It's armed citizens.

    The U.S.A. has been under a covert attack (War of Attrition) The time is here for
    the final death blow, everything is in place for Martial Law (Remember the Jade Helm Exercises?)
    Followed by Your Big Brother "Savior" to administer the soon to be mandatory shot to "save " You
    from certain death (From the Real or fake virus).

    All that is needed now is the right Crisis, And a bio weapon germ is the perfect excuse to kick it all
    off, & the masses of dumbed down, apathetic, & Scared Sheeple will be begging for It.
    (Especially after the food supply chain is broken & Society goes into melt down).

    Please prove Me wrong.
    Murica IS the new world order you dumb shit😂

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    im the werld order , give me your TP

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    A MESSAGE TO ALL YOU CONSPIRACY THEORY NAYSAYERS:

    How many times a week do I get labeled a conspiracy theorist nutcase? How many times a week is it suggested my tinfoil hat is too tight or not thick enough? Let me explain something to you...when world leaders publish these theories as goals and mention them by name in speeches, it ceases to be a theory and all you're left with is a conspiracy. On page 1 of this thread a gentlemen already posted this:

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    You laughed. Fine. Here's a montage of world leaders talking about the New World Order:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lis0f1AI0Y

    Here's a link to the UN's Agenda 21 page, written in black and white for anyone to read:

    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...ments/agenda21

    Oh, sounds nice doesn't it? Sustainable development. You science-only nuts must have a hard-on by now. Let's look at it a little closer, shall we?

    http://csglobe.com/agenda-21-depopul...95-world-2030/

    Yes, Agenda 21 suggests closing off ALL rural areas to civilians. All you country boy preppers out there, you've been wasting your time. Your Bug-Out-Bag will be useless to you, although it will be a nice bit of loot for the UN soldier who picks it up once you're in custody. The area where the California "wild" fires took place lines up perfectly with the Agenda 21 no-go zones. Look at those fires more closely and it looks a little less wild and a little more sinister.

    Then you have the Jade Helm / Wal-mart war games experiment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrmqWZyoido

    Not to mention all the false flag shootings (Sandy Hook, Vegas, South Texas, Florida) and the obvious inside job that was 9-11, and a concerted effort to push the NWO becomes clear.

    Here's the deal skeptics...while you have been scoffing and laughing over the years, I've been digging, reading, watching and looking. A pic, a couple web links, and a couple YouTube videos aren't going to change your mind, I know that, and you'll begin roasting me in short order after I post this - fair enough. All I can tell you is that I KNOW MORE THAN YOU. I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S YET TO HAPPEN. You'll be skeptical and cynical the whole way, and this will play out as I know it will. The handful of links and examples I've posted are a drop in the bucket of what's going on, but America to you has been a little bubble...you're a toddler playing in a privacy-fenced backyard, everything is clean and safe and beautiful "in your little world"...but outside that fence is the REAL America and the crap we're involved in. You think the government is secular??? You'd better start paying attention to our monuments, statues, and buildings because we look nothing short of Rome and the 4th Reich, and the number of Zionists now in power in our government is unavoidably terrifying.

    Ask yourself this...with a population nearing 8 Billion people, how do we achieve the goal of only 500,000,000 as published on the Georgia Guidestones?

    https://thesecrettruthabout.com/the-...tones-mystery/

    Oh, but those are just a conspiracy theory too, right? Made of stone. Standing for all to see and read. Mentioned on Trip Advisor as a neat destination. Unless you think a public threat carved in stone against 7.5 Billion people is just a theory, you have to admit, all you're left with is a conspiracy on how to achieve said goal, and the people conspiring to achieve it. Maybe go back and re-watch those videos...
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    Say goodbye to toilet paper masks and Say hello to Covid-19 style !
    Stay safe while riding.
    Leave it on when you get off as well .
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    Maximum protection for the covid-19+ patient.
    Why should the rest of us be inconvenienced ?

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    maximum coolness, max protection.
    It's a win , win !
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