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  • nmaineron
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 331

    #16
    I'm in the process of building a frame for my project. This is my second frame simply because I wasn't happy with how it came out the first time.I have been welding and playing with steel for 30 years. Levels and squares and clamps,verniers and micrometers fill my tool boxes.I tried to make it perfect but a pulled weld here and there.Too much heat and trying to make do without the tool I need caused cut outs and do overs. I'm not here to criticize or discourage but to make you aware that it's not a week end job if you've never done this type of work before.Study up and ask a million questions. Spend a week on your back trying to get to that spot that needs to be welded which you can only see with one eye when the lights go out. Take a pile of pictures for reference, especially for your electrical issues.

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    • DustyDave
      Super Moderator
      • Oct 2012
      • 2015

      #17
      A small laser level, a compound head and a tape measure are all the measuring tools I use to build frames. Slugs should be the same thickness and type of steel tube, They should sized to be heavy slip or light hammer fit. Solid slugs cause cracks!
      Dusty
      Driving that train, high on cocaine
      Casey Jones you better, watch your speed
      Trouble ahead, trouble behind
      And you know that notion just crossed my mind​

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      • BrokeAss
        Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 39

        #18
        Originally posted by Tattooo
        Just remember the title goes with the frame................ Unless he has an early motor that is............
        Nah, we have a CNC laser for that...quick pic of the VIN, digitize it, burn onto the new frame. Retains the original dimensions, font, etc...

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        • rockman96
          Senior Member
          • May 2018
          • 895

          #19
          Originally posted by confab
          Is there a general consensus about the best type of steel to make a slug from?

          It needs to be imminently weldable, hard enough it doesn't bend.. But soft enough it isn't prone to cracking and is easily machinable.

          ???
          I've always used plain 'ole mild steel.

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          • Tattooo
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 12407

            #20
            Originally posted by BrokeAss
            Nah, we have a CNC laser for that...quick pic of the VIN, digitize it, burn onto the new frame. Retains the original dimensions, font, etc...
            What ever you think is best................

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            • BrokeAss
              Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 39

              #21
              Originally posted by Tattooo
              What ever you think is best................
              Ultimately my friend's decision, he'll be the one either paying to sort out the death trap he has now or buying another frame. I'll just provide the means of retaining his current VIN if need-be.

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              • farmall
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 9983

                #22
                Interesting! How deep can that laser cut and what do the numbers look like? Make/model? I have a bro in the firearms business who may need to do many serial numbers if he gets a contract.

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                • Jake883
                  Member
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 48

                  #23
                  nah i wasnt insulted by that i get buying shit off craiglist can iffy. ive already come to realize that this is gonna take longer thatn i initioally hoped if i want to do it right. gonna take the time to make sure everything is straight. im back at school now practicing my tig welds on pipe. hopefully i could get my bike trailered upstate with all the parts. thinking ab renting a trailer and having my dad take it up in his suv but everything seems pretty expensive.

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                  • BrokeAss
                    Member
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 39

                    #24
                    Originally posted by farmall
                    Interesting! How deep can that laser cut and what do the numbers look like? Make/model? I have a bro in the firearms business who may need to do many serial numbers if he gets a contract.
                    It's a 30w CO2 laser we're currently upgrading to 80w. For etching directly into steel, you'd need a fiber laser. Harley VINs nowadays are punched into the powder coat for the most part. You can kinda make out the VIN after sand blasting, but it's thin and shallow. Our laser can burn an exact duplicate of the imperfect punched stock VIN off nothing more than a quick cell phone pic. It goes without saying, we only offer this service if proof of legal ownership is established for both frames. Pinwall Cycles sells clean, used frames legally dismantled and legally sold with bill-of-sale. Harley themselves used to offer (probably still does) to punch a replacement frame with your current VIN for accident repair, so there's nothing terribly unique about what we're doing.

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                    • Tattooo
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 12407

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BrokeAss
                      It's a 30w CO2 laser we're currently upgrading to 80w. For etching directly into steel, you'd need a fiber laser. Harley VINs nowadays are punched into the powder coat for the most part. You can kinda make out the VIN after sand blasting, but it's thin and shallow. Our laser can burn an exact duplicate of the imperfect punched stock VIN off nothing more than a quick cell phone pic. It goes without saying, we only offer this service if proof of legal ownership is established for both frames. Pinwall Cycles sells clean, used frames legally dismantled and legally sold with bill-of-sale. Harley themselves used to offer (probably still does) to punch a replacement frame with your current VIN for accident repair, so there's nothing terribly unique about what we're doing.
                      Like farm asked..... Post a pic of something you have done so we can see how close it is to original stamped numbers............ It sounds interesting......... Thanks

                      And NO Harley doesn't sell number stamps to the public and hasn't for MANY years............... If ever........... They were ONLY sold to dealers..............
                      Last edited by Tattooo; 01-21-2020, 5:39 PM.

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                      • BrokeAss
                        Member
                        • Jan 2020
                        • 39

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Tattooo
                        Like farm asked..... Post a pic of something you have done so we can see how close it is to original stamped numbers............ It sounds interesting......... Thanks

                        And NO Harley doesn't sell number stamps to the public and hasn't for MANY years............... If ever........... They were ONLY sold to dealers..............
                        I'll get a pic tomorrow.

                        No, I know Harley didn't sell them to the public, I mean they'd stamp a new frame with an existing VIN and ship it to a dealer who was repairing a crashed bike. That's all I meant.

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                        • hillcat
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1443

                          #27
                          Why your bristles up, Tattooo?

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                          • Tattooo
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 12407

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hillcat
                            Why your bristles up, Tattooo?
                            Nope......... Yours??????????

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                            • BrokeAss
                              Member
                              • Jan 2020
                              • 39

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Tattooo
                              Post a pic of something you have done so we can see how close it is to original stamped numbers............ It sounds interesting......... Thanks
                              Sporty cafe project in my shop presently. VIN was all but removed by blasting, we burned it back in with the laser. Numbers obscured for privacy:

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                              • farmall
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 9983

                                #30
                                Looks great! Should also be excellent for restoring corroded numbers.

                                For those into stamping: https://www.knuckleworks.com/khphshs.html

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