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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    Ya can make another on the side to trade for bike parts. We won't tell.
    What's a few minutes of grunting for a lifetime of horsepower?

    The formula is simple:
    Buy classic motorbike.
    Remove gas cap.
    Replace the rest of the motorcycle.
    Reinstall gas cap.
    If gas cap needs work, replace that, too.
    The missus might not play along with that first statement.

    The second part is oh so very true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post

    Keep in mind this was the motor where all the gaps on the rings were aligned and the pistons were backwards in the holes.
    I have a few wonders about how this was cured .. ??

    When you was in there did you check the wall fit of the pistons to cylinders .. ??
    Also did you throw down a new 45* crosshatch with 280 grit stones on the jugs .. ??
    And was a check for the pistons running true to the bore performed .. ??

    Dang .... Tattoo is rubbing off on me ... LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    I have a few wonders about how this was cured .. ??

    When you was in there did you check the wall fit of the pistons to cylinders .. ??
    Also did you throw down a new 45* crosshatch with 280 grit stones on the jugs .. ??
    And was a check for the pistons running true to the bore performed .. ??

    Dang .... Tattoo is rubbing off on me ... LOL

    Hi fair questions, but yes, he did a complete overhaul, and T-Bone is very respected in the Harley restoration world.

    I am not at all surprised by what you are finding. He had said the heads would work "for a while", but that I should begin hunting for a set of 56' heads as he didn't feel he could salvage the ones you have.

    I've been hunting for a set of "good" 56' heads, but so far the only ones I have seen were a set for $2k that were going to need a full rebuild anyhow.

    After watching what you are capable of I thought I would throw the challenge to you before going the S&S route. If you can save them for a reasonable amount of change I would much rather have you do them. If not then I will really look at the S&S heads and pay you for the time you have into looking at these.

    ( Of course then your ninja skills might be called into question......just say'n....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    Dang .... Tattoo is rubbing off on me ... LOL

    LOL It was just a matter of time......LOL

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    Really don't want to second guess a pro's work, but as of yet I've not got to the point of pointing a finger at the source of the oil problem ...
    Wanting to touch all the bases that can get oil into the burn ....

    On the S&S heads ... Those Bad Boys are nice as they come, but do require a lot of other parts in order to complete the installation ...

    Got the Jet Washer warming up, heads will take a ride today in the critter .. The soap solution is heated up to 175 degrees should see all the oil gone and most of all the grime ... Then a trip to the oven for a little heat up will be in order ...

    Not going high with the heat, around 250 degrees ... Don't want the seats dropping out of the critters .. Just want to feel the fit of the guides in their bores ... If they are loose the heat will show this condition ....

    "Stay Tuned" .... Results of this test at the end of the day ...
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    If the seats fall out when the head is hot, you have worse problems than you have so far outlined.

    I hate it when a seat falls out when I'm prepping a head for new guides, but better to happen on the bench than in a running motor.

    Jim

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    Just as more info, when I first got the bike after two kicks there was around 30psi in the front jug and a bit more in the rear. After the rebuild I get a bit over 120 per cylinder after two kicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBinNC View Post

    I hate it when a seat falls out when I'm prepping a head for new guides.

    Jim
    Not anymore than I do ...

    Here's the problem with seat replacement on the Pans ...
    Exhausts are a piece of cake ... Intakes, Oh Boy .. !!

    With having .005" to .007" press fit for installing the seats, on Pans there is very little support after doing the counter bore on the intake ... Sometimes during the slow cool down the head will pop at the weak area of the intake port ....
    Might say it's a crap shoot doing intake seats ....
    I've been known to build up that area with weld before the counter bore is cut ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    Not anymore than I do ...

    Here's the problem with seat replacement on the Pans ...
    Exhausts are a piece of cake ... Intakes, Oh Boy .. !!

    With having .005" to .007" press fit for installing the seats, on Pans there is very little support after doing the counter bore on the intake ... Sometimes during the slow cool down the head will pop at the weak area of the intake port ....
    Might say it's a crap shoot doing intake seats ....
    I've been known to build up that area with weld before the counter bore is cut ....
    Plus so many pan heads have had the intake side "ported" right up to the bronze, and it ain't nothin' but a shit show trying to fix them.

    Jim

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    I have had complete success installing seats in pans, but I use large diameter seats, which also allows them to be taller. They are very stable and I've never had ANY seat come out of any head.

    Jim

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    Me too ...

    But I gotta tell ya with the V-T re-po STD heads on the market ...
    I'd much rather take the labor money involved in doing an Oem set of heads and hand it to Teddy for a set of those "Kick-Ass" heads ...





    (Think that in my Twilight years, I may be getting a bit lazy .. !!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post

    I'm going to make a video of the wobble and post ...
    https://www.facebook.com/Dragstews/v...9013876916465/

    (Sorry Tatt .... Yo'll have to wait till it's made into a movie ... )
    ... (Aw Hell, go ahead and click on it ... It ain't going to kill ya, ya old Buzzard) ...
    ............................. It's Free Too .. !! ...............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    But I gotta tell ya with the V-T re-po STD heads on the market ...
    I'd much rather take the labor money involved in doing an Oem set of heads and hand it to Teddy for a set of those "Kick-Ass" heads ...
    So Teds heads come complete ready to bolt on and go?????????

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    Yup ...

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    OK so that is the $1,700.00 solution.....

    Still holding out for the DragStew miracle, ChopCult special price....

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    $1,700 ?? .... Ya over shot it by $500

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    Amazon for a complete set with valves, etc

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    Cleaned up pretty nice ....



    Say .... If ya want this broken fin fixed ...
    I can make it so ...

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    ^^^^^^ Those are damn nice......^^^^^^^^

    Haven't those seats been replaced?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
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    They are purdy............

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