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    Default Choppers with long front ends and 19" front wheels. Let's see em.

    Currently building my shovel over the winter. I'm going with a hardtail and stock rake with a springer (26" from front of rocker to bottom of springs)
    Naturally I wanna run a 21" but at this stage it looks like the bike is gonna be leaning back to far for my taste. I wanna see anyone else running extended front ends on a rigid bike with a 19" front wheel. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimal666 View Post
    Currently building my shovel over the winter. I'm going with a hardtail and stock rake with a springer (26" from front of rocker to bottom of springs)
    Naturally I wanna run a 21" but at this stage it looks like the bike is gonna be leaning back to far for my taste. I wanna see anyone else running extended front ends on a rigid bike with a 19" front wheel. Thanks.
    Man your kidding right????????????
    Last edited by Tattooo; 11-15-2019 at 7:46 PM.

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    I dont know how many inches over stock your springer is but my shoveled pan here
    has a 12" over hydro front end with a 19" front wheel. The frame is not stock, It has about
    a 38 deg. rake. I'm not exactly sure but I think the neck is stretched upward a bit, how much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tattooo View Post
    Man your kidding right????????????
    He's going for the gusto !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 47str8leg View Post
    He's going for the gusto !

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    Only if he knew what he was going for?????????? That's about as open ended question I've read in a long time........ Way more information needed................

    Plus there are so many pics of choppers out there you could spend days looking at them......... Way more than you will ever get people to post in 10 years in this thread,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 47str8leg View Post
    He's going for the gusto !

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    That goose neck frame looks like that one that Number One Wing was trying to sell a few
    years ago, He had that thing posted on ebay for months and months & kept putting it
    on the CC classifieds, and was asking way too much money for it. probably still has it

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    [QUOTE=Tattooo;833297]Only if he knew what he was going for?????????? That's about as open ended question I've read in a long time........ Way more information needed................

    He's going for a no rake bike with an incredibly long front end . Permanent wheelie effect.
    Trail calculations be damned.
    Problem is a 21 is bringing the wheelie king too easy to go over backwards and , through careful calculation , has determined that the approximate 3/4" difference between the 19&21" wheels should keep him firmly planted.

    He laughs in the face of danger.
    Last edited by 47str8leg; 11-16-2019 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Witticism.

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    Mock it up and post pics.

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    stock rake with a springer (26" from front of rocker to bottom of springs)
    That is not long:

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    His 26" measurement...That is like +3 inch extension...whoaww, "the bike is gonna be leaning back to far for my taste"

    a long frontend,+3", don't even talk to me.
    Last edited by TriNortchopz; 11-16-2019 at 7:33 PM. Reason: long

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    A couple from back in the day - mostly ran 21" fronts but these were 19" as I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriNortchopz View Post
    That is not long:

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    His 26" measurement...That is like +3 inch extension...whoaww, "the bike is gonna be leaning back to far for my taste"

    a long frontend,+3", don't even talk to me.
    Too bad your calculator is wrong. 19" from the bottom of a stock springer is not 4" under but 4&1/2" OVER so that is an 8&1/2" swing . At 26" it is an 11&1/2" over on a stock rake bike.
    Things are looking up.
    Actually my measurements were taken to the rear rockerthough the calculator looks like it was taken to the axle so let's add an inch to that.
    Some of my comments were " tongue and cheek" and over exaggerated for effect but , as I see it , he is going to be up there quite a bit. Pic is taken from my stock length knuckle soringer

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    Black works just right on that Knuck. Clean and tidy.

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    Nice Knuck.

    Ya, that chart from Demon's Cycle (and Thompson Choppers) is based on chopper springer, not a stock HD;

    This is copied from a 2012 CC thread
    [Thread: Question: stock length for a 45 HD springer, http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21545]
    taken from Shovelhead US; note length for FX and late Sportster forks:

    Fork lengths measured in inches from the bottom of the lower fork bearing cup (or a point parallel to it on the fork tube) to the center of the axle hole.
    With this list, you can determine the length of a set of tubes, a springer, a girder, or whatever, you need.
    By adding the stock length to the extension figure, you’ll then arrive at a reasonably close idea of how far the fork will raise your frame above the tire and pavement.

    (Note : all lengths were measured on an unladen bike resting on a sidestand. Adding weight or changing springs will change lengths slightly)

    Harley –Davidson

    Standard springer.......................................... .19 1/2 in.
    Xa springer.......................................21 in.
    Vl springer........................................19 in.
    45 springer........................................19 in.
    standard glide (early FL)...................21 1/2 in.
    superglide (FX)..................................23 in.
    early sportster................................21 in.
    early optional sportster (XLCH)........22 in.
    late sportster...................................23 in.

    See that Moto Iron uses the same specs:
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    but changes it based on some newer models (2004+ Sportster):
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    Another good chart with several manufacturers front ends:

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    Be good to see a photo of what OP Danimal666 actually has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 47str8leg View Post

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    The "Dudley's Basement" Knuck...Killer chop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmanator View Post
    The "Dudley's Basement" Knuck...Killer chop!

    James did the Motor and trans before I got it . Niles Buxton and I did the rest. It looked nothing like that when I got it. Needed a LOT of help.

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    [QUOTE=69Glide;833358]A couple from back in the day - mostly ran 21" fronts but these were 19" as I recall.

    Not much difference between a 19 or 21 inch front wheel with tire on.
    Pick your tire carefully and you will get where you want to go.

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    Not rigid, but it is 12 over, stock rake and a 19" wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelator View Post
    That goose neck frame looks like that one that Number One Wing was trying to sell a few
    years ago, He had that thing posted on ebay for months and months & kept putting it
    on the CC classifieds, and was asking way too much money for it. probably still has it
    That's because he asked way too much money for everythig

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