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  • Nanonevol
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 306

    Wasn't looking for a project

    But this thing inspires me:

    I wonder what went here:
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    and here:
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  • Tattooo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 12407

    #2
    Now that's different and cool to boot......................

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    • Nanonevol
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 306

      #3
      Thanks, I was told it was built by "Jake the Weasel", an associate of George Barris.
      I asked Joji Barris, his daughter and she did not remember the name but said it could be before her time.
      Would love to have seen it "finished".
      The fenders are a bit like early Triumph fenders but even more filled out. May be an aftermarket part or a one-off.

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      • TriNortchopz
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 3255

        #4
        Now that got some cool stuff. Is there a frame number on that front section? Looks like a 1970 piece as the front engine plates bolt on. Are the fenders fiberglass - looks like it from the side hole near the license plate mount. Neat the way that chain guard is integrated in there. That front fender is reminiscent of a '63 6T Thunderbird:
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        Looks like those are bolt on wheel covers...I've seen that style of bolt on hardtail before, the way the tubes join to the axle plate is rather unique.
        Guessing a toolbox bolted onto the hardtail like this one from a 1940-'57 Big Twin:
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        What year is the engine? Got the rest of the parts to rebuild it?
        Last edited by TriNortchopz; 10-19-2019, 10:39 PM.
        If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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        • farmall
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 9983

          #5
          It's a cool odd duck and Triumph unit twin engine parts are inexpensive.

          The big question with that bodywork would be what to paint it.

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          • Hatchet54
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 722

            #6
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            • Nanonevol
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 306

              #7
              The number on the frame is barely legible and there is no title. I'll work the system to get one somehow.

              The engine cases are 1967, just like it says on the British style plate. Don' t know if I'll try to built that up or find a complete engine.
              The fenders are all steel. Magnetic.

              Maybe paint it in Pearl Gray and Tangerine like a '59

              Or Batmobile Black and Orange


              The big question is what kind of pipes? Fishtails?

              It'll mostly have to wait as I'm deep into my 66 BSA Lighting now. Cranks out for a dynamic balance.
              But that's a stock bike, not a chopper, so won't share that here.
              Last edited by Nanonevol; 10-20-2019, 12:57 PM.

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              • farmall
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 9983

                #8
                BSA build info is always welcome since it certainly applies to choppers.

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                • Nanonevol
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 306

                  #9
                  Closer inspection shows this is a numbers matching 1967.
                  The motor mounts in the front were cut off and the tube drilled for make-shift 1970 style mounts as noticed by TriNortchopz.

                  Also learned that old British bikes used triangular tool boxes at some point.


                  So nobody has heard of "Jake the Weasel"?
                  Last edited by Nanonevol; 10-21-2019, 12:06 PM.

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                  • JakeF
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 202

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nanonevol
                    So nobody has heard of "Jake the Weasel"?
                    Shhh....

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                    • datadavid
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1022

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nanonevol
                      Closer inspection shows this is a numbers matching 1967.
                      The motor mounts in the front were cut off and the tube drilled for make-shift 1970 style mounts as noticed by TriNortchopz.

                      Also learned that old British bikes used triangular tool boxes at some point.


                      So nobody has heard of "Jake the Weasel"?
                      At least anything you do to it will be an improvement, those tins dont inspire me personally to do anything but cut excess fat. Everything is just a little off frame wise as well.

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                      • TriNortchopz
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 3255

                        #12
                        It'll mostly have to wait as I'm deep into my 66 BSA Lighting now. Cranks out for a dynamic balance.
                        Are you sure it's a 1966 crank in there?

                        Tech Tip: BSA A65 Cranks - Early vs Late
                        "In 1966, BSA 650 model line up (and A50 500 models) where fitted on the drive side with a roller bearing (68-0625) which replaced the earlier deep groove ball bearing (67-1240)...Replacing the bearing also meant switching from a one-piece bearing to a two-piece part, which also required a thrust washer (part no 68-0685) on the timing side to center the crankshaft and protect the crankcase...The first well-known difference between 62 - 65 ball bearing cranks (68-0175/68-0179) and 66-and-up roller bearing cranks (68-0734) is that the earlier cranks are narrower...the later cranks need extra space to fit a thrust washer against the right-side shoulder and need more space to allow this...In later, post-65 crankcases, however, any crank and any bearing option can be fitted as long as it's properly shimmed and centered."
                        See pics and crank measurement specs here: https://www.classicbritishspares.com...vs-late-cranks
                        If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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                        • Nanonevol
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 306

                          #13
                          It's hard to be sure of anything on a 50 year old engine.

                          But, yeah I've read that tech tip which answers some questions but I don't think has the whole situation sorted out.

                          1966 was the transition year so I have "late" (66-up) cases which I can tell by the thickness of the case on the drive side.
                          My crank (that did not come in these cases) must be "early" because the counterweights are the same thickness.
                          (But I've read elsewhere that early cranks had two sludge traps and mine has one so...)
                          I'll probably use a ball bearing so won't need a thrust washer (or shims possibly) but don't know until I can test fit it.

                          Doug the Annoyance probably knows all that esoteric BSA stuff.

                          I'm cheap but spending money on the important stuff for a reliable motor. Dynamic balanced crank, machinist to line bore the timing side bush, NOS piston type OPV and I plan to spring for the Hepolite cast iron oil pump.

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                          • Nanonevol
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 306

                            #14
                            Originally posted by datadavid
                            At least anything you do to it will be an improvement, those tins dont inspire me personally to do anything but cut excess fat. Everything is just a little off frame wise as well.

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                            • Skjoll
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 259

                              #15
                              Kinda reminds me of a Mustang except for the larger wheels.

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