I'm The king of cheap ass guns haha I just got this one the other day only paid $229 at my local ranch store you gun snobs i'm sure will tell me how much it sucks but it was cheap 100% American made they back it forever and it will eat anything i feed it. The Loathed Hi-Point 995TS Carbine. Its fun to bolt shit to it too.
Yep, a lot of low budget gun companies like Hi-Point, Taurus and the like offer lifetime warrantees and will fix or replace the gun for life. But think of it this way. If the gun breaks down in a gunfight, the warrantee is up! Myself, I'll stick with the good stuff.
Yep, a lot of low budget gun companies like Hi-Point, Taurus and the like offer lifetime warrantees and will fix or replace the gun for life. But think of it this way. If the gun breaks down in a gunfight, the warrantee is up! Myself, I'll stick with the good stuff.
What is "the good stuff"? I live in the middle of nowhere Nebraska. Around here EVERYONE has guns, I have shot just about anything there is out there to shoot from homemade to one of a kind and ALL guns have the capability to misfire/malfunction. I have had "the good stuff" malfunction I had a Kimber 1911 bind up at a shoot 2 years ago (running Federal HST 230 gr, so it wasn't "cheap" ammo) I have had Berreta not eject a round while under regular use, I have had an AR 15 misload a round and jam up. My 9mm carbine has never had a single issue. My Remington 870 express has misfired where as my cheapo Mossberg has never had a single issue. There are many variables that can cause a misfire/malfunction: ammo, moisture, magazine imperfections, operator error, etc. The Hornady manufacturing facility is literally 45 miles from my house, I have a couple friends that work there, guess what? They will tell you they have ammo returned from time to time. ANYTHING made by the human hand has the possibility to fail, overlapping tolerances during the manufacturing process can cause ill affects, from ammo to magazines to the gun itself.
It seems to me Arby that you really enjoy raining on peoples parades. We all don't like the same things you like or particularly want to own/purchase the same things you do. If you have some facts to back up your claims the your "good stuff" is better than post it as opposed to just saying "what I have is better" feel free to do so. I personally use my cheapo Mossberg and my $250 Ruger 9mm as my home/personal defense guns (and my hi point carbine for for Zombie defense) and I wouldn't trust my Family's safety to unproven weapons.
It seems to me Arby that you really enjoy raining on peoples parades. We all don't like the same things you like or particularly want to own/purchase the same things you do. If you have some facts to back up your claims the your "good stuff" is better than post it as opposed to just saying "what I have is better" feel free to do so. I personally use my cheapo Mossberg and my $250 Ruger 9mm as my home/personal defense guns (and my hi point carbine for for Zombie defense) and I wouldn't trust my Family's safety to unproven weapons.
You could be right. Compared to some peoples knowledge I may appear to be lacking in mine. But, my career and experience have taught me a few things that I think I can speak on with some authority and guns are one of them. Now Mossberg is not a bad gun. But that Hi-Point and even the Kimber you mentioned are junk. That's right, KImber is junk. They rust and they are prone to falling apart when you attempt to use it the way a fighting gun gets used. I don't care how much they cost.
I have taught tactical firearms, chemical munitions and other assorted weapons almost full time since 1985. I am a Certified Firearms Instructor in Florida and four other states and am a court recognized expert witness on firearms and ammunition. I am also a factory certified Armorer on 24 different weapons systems including handguns, shotguns, carbines, machine gun and submachine gun in addition to being a graduate of FBI Ballististic and Bullet Trajectory program.
I have attended almost 200 firearms and instructor related schools and belong to or have presented programs for more than a few prestigious instructor organizations around the country. I have learned from or taught with some of the most noted practitioners in the tactical firearms industry so I think it's fair to say that I know what works and what doesn't- both on the bench and in the field. And if it doesn't work then I know how to fix it or make it work.
Now you may call pointing out substandard firearms "raining on peoples parades" and that's OK with me. But there's a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is when you don't know something, stupidity is when you won't know something. In what I do, either one can get you seriously hurt or worse. So go ahead and enjoy your Hi-point. If it ever doesn't protect you adequately at least you'll be able to say you aren't ignorant!
My brother has a kimber and it shoots and feels nice. I have Springfield GI model which was super cheap. I put night sights on it, and got a trigger job. But the little fucker has some feeding problems. I know I have a sub par gun because the little asshole jams and has feeding problems. Maybe it's the range ammo?
My brother has a kimber and it shoots and feels nice. I have Springfield GI model which was super cheap. I put night sights on it, and got a trigger job. But the little fucker has some feeding problems. I know I have a sub par gun because the little asshole jams and has feeding problems. Maybe it's the range ammo?
Springfiled Armory makes a very nice, durable 1911. Even their more economical models are better then some high end brands. I have a good relationship with them in that whatever parts I break on my training guns which are way, way past warrantee, they give me new replacements and I send them the busted stuff so their engineers can determine if upgrades are needed.
The shortcoming of some 1911's is the feed ramp because of the relativly complicated transition angles of the mag to ramp to throat transition. It can also be caused by the brand of ammo. I've always had good luck with polishing the ramp and initial feeding edge of the chamber with a dremel and some Flitz, Simi-Chrome or other mildly abrasive metal polish.
If you have more than 1,000 rounds through the S/A consider changing the recoil spring. Springfield recommends replacement at 750 rds. but I've got over 9,000 rds. through my TRP and haven't changed mine yet.
You could be right. Compared to some peoples knowledge I may appear to be lacking in mine. But, my career and experience have taught me a few things that I think I can speak on with some authority and guns are one of them. Now Mossberg is not a bad gun. But that Hi-Point and even the Kimber you mentioned are junk. That's right, KImber is junk. They rust and they are prone to falling apart when you attempt to use it the way a fighting gun gets used. I don't care how much they cost.
I have taught tactical firearms, chemical munitions and other assorted weapons almost full time since 1985. I am a Certified Firearms Instructor in Florida and four other states and am a court recognized expert witness on firearms and ammunition. I am also a factory certified Armorer on 24 different weapons systems including handguns, shotguns, carbines, machine gun and submachine gun in addition to being a graduate of FBI Ballististic and Bullet Trajectory program.
I have attended almost 200 firearms and instructor related schools and belong to or have presented programs for more than a few prestigious instructor organizations around the country. I have learned from or taught with some of the most noted practitioners in the tactical firearms industry so I think it's fair to say that I know what works and what doesn't- both on the bench and in the field. And if it doesn't work then I know how to fix it or make it work.
Now you may call pointing out substandard firearms "raining on peoples parades" and that's OK with me. But there's a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is when you don't know something, stupidity is when you won't know something. In what I do, either one can get you seriously hurt or worse. So go ahead and enjoy your Hi-point. If it ever doesn't protect you adequately at least you'll be able to say you aren't ignorant!
Your raining peoples parade, does not pertain to just guns it's EVERYTHING you comment on.
Hi point are not high end and I am not saying they "are the shit" I simply said they are fairly accurate and fun as fuck to shoot. How many have you shot? How many have you had fail? How many have you seen fail? now I never claimed to be an expert (just that I have shot a lot), nor do I claim know anything more than what I put my hands on. I am not ignorant to anything you are saying, nor stupid. Nor did I say you were lacking in knowledge. From your claims you appear to have significant knowledge. I simply stated that they are decent guns. I never claimed Kimber was a great gun, it was an example of a commonly known gun that many hold in high regard. I also stated and I quote
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We all don't like the same things you like or particularly want to own/purchase the same things you do. If you have some facts to back up your claims the your "good stuff" is better than post it as opposed to just saying "what I have is better" feel free to do so.
Simply saying I asked for FACTS I hate being ignorant to the truth if you have some knowledge, then drop some knowledge. The fact of the matter is you showed information to support your comment.
Instead of saying.......
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Yep, a lot of low budget gun companies like Hi-Point, Taurus and the like offer lifetime warrantees and will fix or replace the gun for life. But think of it this way. If the gun breaks down in a gunfight, the warrantee is up! Myself, I'll stick with the good stuff.
Use your almighty knowledge from years of blah blah blah and say.......... Hi point is substandard because..... And I prefer_____________ because_______________.
I stated MY EXPERIENCES, I could go on and on about which guns I have had good/bad experiences with and they may be commonplace or 1 in a million. I gave a few, you rebutted which I can respect and have no problem with. That is the exchange of knowledge, the point of asking, the whole point of threads such as this.
It's your whole "holier than thow" attitude about EVERYTHING, "Jap chops suck" "EVOs Suck" EVERYTHING you spew forth is negative and usually rude. Which is a fact, not just an opinion and I can support those FACTS easily with examples and polls if needed. Not to rant, so I'll return to just the guns which is the subject of this thread.
In my experience as far as guns go. GOOD GUNS FAIL, CHEAP GUNS FAIL, EXPENSIVE GUNS FAIL. You still haven't given any examples of "good stuff" and why they are the good stuff. Anything made by man is prone to failure.
Your raining peoples parade, does not pertain to just guns it's EVERYTHING you comment on.
Perhaps you should read my other posts, not just the ones you disagree with.
Hi point are not high end and I am not saying they "are the shit" I simply said they are fairly accurate and fun as fuck to shoot. How many have you shot?
Two. The first one was a handgun - the slide cracked. The second was the carbine and the front sight fell of the gun and was lost.
In my experience as far as guns go. GOOD GUNS FAIL, CHEAP GUNS FAIL, EXPENSIVE GUNS FAIL. You still haven't given any examples of "good stuff" and why they are the good stuff. Anything made by man is prone to failure.
The above statement is somewhat accurate. Guns are machines and do break. Knowing that I would never encourage people to start off "in the hole" with low budget firearms, motorcycles or anything else. As I said I know what works and what doesn't. I've told you what doesn't and you take issue with it. Please don't hate me just because I'm beautiful!
My latest, but selling or trading it for a Ruger LCP and LCR in .357. Has the Crimson Trace recoil reducing laser grip, all it does for me is make me realize I am not into fancy lasers.
My latest, but selling or trading it for a Ruger LCP and LCR in .357. Has the Crimson Trace recoil reducing laser grip, all it does for me is make me realize I am not into fancy lasers.
Minus the Crimson Trace that is the best handgun there is to own. It is what a handgun is for - hand to hand combat. If you are going to get in a gunfight use a rifle, a shotgun, a howitzer, an air strike, thermonuclear weapon. The S&W five shot is concealable, you can take it to the door with you and either use it or put it in your pocket. You won't/can't do that with a big handgun. You can take it when you feel you may be in jeopardy and no one will ever know. If things turn to shit it will leave no casings for you to pick up before you leave. A few strokes with the file will ruin the signature of the firing pin. A good hacksaw will split the barrel and ruin that signature as well. If you have a bad round you don't have to do the action clearing drill, just keep pulling the trigger. If you need it you pull it out and start pulling the trigger, there are no safeties to fumble with as you grapple with your worst nightmare. It is hard to disarm someone with a 2" because there is nothing to grab onto. Most gunfights occur at a range of 21 feet or less and it is plenty accurate for that. The 38 Special Doesn't have the knockdown power of a 45 but it will definitely ruin the day of any douche bag.
Minus the Crimson Trace that is the best handgun there is to own. It is what a handgun is for - hand to hand combat. If you are going to get in a gunfight use a rifle, a shotgun, a howitzer, an air strike, thermonuclear weapon. The S&W five shot is concealable, you can take it to the door with you and either use it or put it in your pocket. You won't/can't do that with a big handgun. You can take it when you feel you may be in jeopardy and no one will ever know. If things turn to shit it will leave no casings for you to pick up before you leave. A few strokes with the file will ruin the signature of the firing pin. A good hacksaw will split the barrel and ruin that signature as well. If you have a bad round you don't have to do the action clearing drill, just keep pulling the trigger. If you need it you pull it out and start pulling the trigger, there are no safeties to fumble with as you grapple with your worst nightmare. It is hard to disarm someone with a 2" because there is nothing to grab onto. Most gunfights occur at a range of 21 feet or less and it is plenty accurate for that. The 38 Special Doesn't have the knockdown power of a 45 but it will definitely ruin the day of any douche bag.
It is a decent gun, I just wish it had a better trigger on it.
It is a decent gun, I just wish it had a better trigger on it.
I have owned two S&W Chief's Specials (the version with the external hammer) and took them both to a gunsmith to bob the hammer and do a trigger job on it. The results were just what I needed to smooth up that trigger. You have probably noticed that the S&W trigger has two detents, the second one is like cocking the hammer so you can shoot almost like single action without having to thumb the hammer, this is important if you are actually aiming the weapon. The best way to use it, of course , is to jam it in their gut and squeeze the trigger a few times before you put it to their head. You don't even notice the trigger pull at times like these.
I have owned two S&W Chief's Specials (the version with the external hammer) and took them both to a gunsmith to bob the hammer and do a trigger job on it. The results were just what I needed to smooth up that trigger. You have probably noticed that the S&W trigger has two detents, the second one is like cocking the hammer so you can shoot almost like single action without having to thumb the hammer, this is important if you are actually aiming the weapon. The best way to use it, of course , is to jam it in their gut and squeeze the trigger a few times before you put it to their head. You don't even notice the trigger pull at times like these.
Yeah, I just don't like the gun enough to get a trigger job on it to be honest.
Yeah, I just don't like the gun enough to get a trigger job on it to be honest.
Just my opinion but, if you aren't happy with the quality and performance of the S&W then the both the LCR and the LCP will probably fall way short of your expectations. That 642 is 10 times the gun either of the others are.
Just my opinion but, if you aren't happy with the quality and performance of the S&W then the both the LCR and the LCP will probably fall way short of your expectations. That 642 is 10 times the gun either of the others are.
I appreciate opinions, but I have actually heard some good things about the trigger on the LCR. I know the LCP has a long trigger, but I am getting it because of the size, I am looking for a pocket carry gun that is easier to carry than my Smith.
I have the 9mm highpoint carbine in stainless steel. Fun as fuck to shoot, pretty damn accurate to. The 9mm is 9+p rated to and they make an aftermarket stock for the carbines to make it resemble the Beretta px4 storm carbine.
top is the highpoint, bottom is the Beretta.
They are pretty popular for customizing cause they are affordable. Also they carry a lifetime guarantee.
Here's a link to the 45 carbine..... http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/carb...45caliber.html
I'm pretty sure carbine mags only hold 8 (in .45 acp) but I think they make a 10 round mag for them (that is ugly as fuck) for them
Choppy, those m-44's (mossin naugents or however you spell it) are loud and powerful. You can buy all sorts different ammo for them to and mil-surp is still reasonably cheap. I got a couple of them in a trade years ago, fuckin fun as hell to shoot.
i had the 9mm hi-point for a couple years and put alot of rounds throught it without any problems and i only used the cheapest ammo i could buy, but i'd buy in bulk LOL. i loved that cheap ass gun LOL. i only paid $100 and it was the best money i spent. i was at a gun show today and almost bought another one just for the fun of it LOL, only $120 LOL
now i'm looking at the KelTek PLR-16, i'd have to get the 100 round drum though. cool little pistol in my book and i can carry it.
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Hi-Point Carbine
I shot a full sized UZI rifle once that belonged to a guy at my club. Open sights on steel pepper poppers and it was a blast to shoot. Too spendy for me, so I got up one Black Friday morning and got a HI POINT 9mm CARBINE for $169. Great to shoot. I just wish it took larger mags. Mine is the old Gen without all the rails. I am off and on working on a folding UZI stock for it.
As for the WARRANTY, in my opinion, this isn't a fighting rifle. It's a fun range toy.
I just bought my first single point sling, and so far I like it. I already had a loop on my Mossberg 500 and I added a poor man's loop to my shorty 870.
Flourman, how did you secure that scabbard to your sissy? I bought one of those with the hopes of riding my bike to some of the shoots I do, but I don't want to wear it and didn't see a really secure way to attach it to my sissy bar.
I just picked up another XD45 Tactical and a LPK for my AR lower. I think my next toy is going to be a DRACO Mini pistol. That will eventually be an SBR.
So I just bought a Mossberg Tactical .22 because my 6 y.o boy did awesome with my friends same gun when we went shooting last. While I was at Big 5, the Mosin was on sale for just over $100. With all the great reviews you guys have given what I read elsewhere I bought it too.
So I have two questions, where do you guys get 7.62 surplus ammo, and is the Mosin a decent hunting rifle if it has a scope on it? Not that I plan on doing any hunting here in San Diego any time soon, I was just curious.
So I just bought a Mossberg Tactical .22 because my 6 y.o boy did awesome with my friends same gun when we went shooting last. While I was at Big 5, the Mosin was on sale for just over $100. With all the great reviews you guys have given what I read elsewhere I bought it too.
So I have two questions, where do you guys get 7.62 surplus ammo, and is the Mosin a decent hunting rifle if it has a scope on it? Not that I plan on doing any hunting here in San Diego any time soon, I was just curious.
If you're talking about 7.62 NATO/.308 not sure you'll find much surplus these days.
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