First build thread... '47 Knucklehead basket case

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  • Tattooo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 12407

    #76
    Originally posted by Dragstews
    You also know about the four & five fins jugs ... Right ... ??
    LOL I started typing that to post, but I changed my mind and help with the frame..... LOL

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    • Dragstews
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 13739

      #77
      Speaking of keeping the Motor 3-1/2" stock stroke of the EL's ...

      Here's a bit of Hot-Roding ...

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      This pile of rust is a 40 EL .. ^^

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      Did away with the Oem stepped pin .. Pretty much all of the crank was done ....

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      The crank on the left is what I built up to replace the Oem crank on the right..
      T&O Flywheels with the stock EL stroke using the FL crankpin and H-Beam rods.
      Shaved a bit of weight off the left hand flywheel just for faster revs ....

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      The bore was at 0.030" oversize but didn't clean up till 0.060" over..
      Did a face cut on the gasket surface and left a 0.004" step for using a fire ring head gasket. (That was for a bit more crush on the ring)
      Leineweber #1 cam ...
      And woop-de-doo ...
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      Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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      • Tattooo
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 12407

        #78
        Also using ULH flathead flywheels were the trick back in the day..............

        Oh I'm sorry I'm helping him with the frame...... LOL

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        • Dragstews
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 13739

          #79
          Yeah the U wheels gave a bit more stroke than the FL had.

          U wheels = 4-9/32"
          FL ...".... = 3-31/32"
          Last edited by Dragstews; 10-04-2019, 4:01 PM.
          Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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          • JakeF
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2019
            • 202

            #80
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            • JakeF
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2019
              • 202

              #81
              Jugs, gasket surface to gasket surface = 5 13/32"
              Head bolts = 4 of them measure 2 7/8", 6 of them have been ground down to 2 9/16"
              Stroke is 3 31/32"

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              • JBinNC
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 2713

                #82
                With a stroke of 3 31/32, and the pistons you have, your motor has been upped to 74cu.in. That is not uncommon.

                Jim

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                • Dragstews
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 13739

                  #83
                  FL jugs are 5.530" from gasket to gasket surface ...

                  Here's a kicker about the FL jugs ...
                  The Mo-Co used the same casting for making the 74" jugs from the EL casting ...
                  That was taking the 3-5/16" bore of the EL and boring it out to 3-7/16" of the FL bore ... Which means they bored the EL jugs 0.125" over to get to the FL bore...

                  Not many over-bores are left ... Going 0.030" over the 3.4375" the walls get mighty thin ...

                  Ya know the Boys at S&S Cycle has been making stock bore Knuck jugs in grey cast iron .
                  Very high tensile strength and have been beefed with more meat in crucial areas that was pron to failure.....

                  Last edited by Dragstews; 10-05-2019, 9:02 AM.
                  Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                  • JakeF
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 202

                    #84
                    Pulled the gear cover just now and found the last thing I hoped to see.... chunks of casing metal.....

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                    • Tattooo
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 12407

                      #85
                      ^^^^^^^^ Well Damn.......^^^^^^^^^ That's all I can say....... But it can and should be fixed not replaced.............

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                      • Dragstews
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 13739

                        #86
                        No Biggie ....

                        That can be repaired ...

                        My wonder is what caused that damage .... ??

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                        I do see this up-grade to the 58-up Torrington bearing ...
                        Hope whoever did that job got the hole bored straight ...??
                        Last edited by Dragstews; 10-04-2019, 6:04 PM.
                        Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                        • JakeF
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 202

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Dragstews
                          No Biggie ....

                          That can be repaired ...
                          Thinking about taking a run out to Cape Cod Choppers tomorrow and see if that repair is something they can do. They were recommended by a good friend. I know that's something I can't do.

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                          • JakeF
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 202

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Dragstews
                            No Biggie ....

                            That can be repaired ...

                            My wonder is what caused that damage .... ??

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                            I do see this up-grade to the 58-up Torrington bearing ...
                            Hope whoever did that job got the hole bored straight ...??
                            No idea.... I don't see anything else damaged. It has an Andrews S grind cam in it, by the way, which looks in really good shape.

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                            • Tattooo
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 12407

                              #89
                              Originally posted by JakeF
                              Thinking about taking a run out to Cape Cod Choppers tomorrow and see if that repair is something they can do. They were recommended by a good friend. I know that's something I can't do.
                              If they can do it don't leave it with them........ Come back and let us know what they had to say....... I know Jesse can fix it right but I don't know about the price....... I hope Dave will chime in on how CCC is as far as there work goes?????????????

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                              • Dragstews
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 13739

                                #90
                                That will require welding and some mill work ... Could take it back to the standard size by machining a sleeve to press in ...

                                I do that work, if yo're unable to fine someone local ...

                                Originally posted by Tattooo
                                I know Jesse can fix it right but I don't know about the price..
                                That makes two of us ... Lol
                                Really depends on if a sleeve will be needed ... Lot more shop time is involved doing that ...
                                Might get by with doing a 0.030" overbore ...???
                                Last edited by Dragstews; 10-04-2019, 6:13 PM.
                                Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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