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  • BlackThumbClan
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2019
    • 5

    New to Harleys

    Hey all! I recently picked up a '76 XLH Ironhead and am curious as to where to start making assessments on what needs to be done. I need to purchase a coil. Run the entire electrical harness. Run the oil lines, and put new fluids in her. I bought her from a trustworthy gearhead and was ensured that the engine has good compression, turns over, and the tranny nicely goes through each gear in the pattern.

    My question to the community is this: Is there anything I can look for, any diagnostic tests, visual, or otherwise that will help me determine just what kind of condition the bike is in? I don't know how long it's been sitting, and neither he nor I know what the inside of the motor is looking like. Is there anything I should be concerned about replacing immediately? Bearings? Drum shoes?

    Thank you in advance for any advice!
  • BuddhahoodVato
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2469

    #2
    1] Do you have the OEM manual for the bike,
    2] If not, get one,
    3] A visual scan, would be first, trace wires, oil lines as a example,
    4] Get a manual,
    5] Compression test,
    6] Have fun.
    Last edited by BuddhahoodVato; 09-02-2019, 6:07 PM.

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    • JBinNC
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 2713

      #3
      How to treat a new-to-you Ironhead:

      Everything BV said above.
      Drain the oil out of the oil tank and remove the tank and clean it good (pressure washer).
      Replace oil lines with a good hydraulic hose (not fuel line).
      Use 50 or 60 wt. oil, no multigrades. Use the same motor oil in the primary/transmission on a '76. The oils communicate back and forth through a check valve.
      Remove the complete fuel system from the petcock to the intake manifold. Clean everything and replace the intake orings, carb base gaskets, and fuel line. Use an in-tank filter on the petcock like HD intended, no in-line filters. With clean fuel, the carb should not dribble gas out of the bowl vent. If it does, go through the carb again.
      While you have the intake manifold off, adjust the valves. You may want to pull the pushrods and replace the pushrod tube seals at this time.
      Disassemble and lube the ignition advance unit, or replace it if it's worn. Lube a new unit as well. Use a light white lithium grease. Replace or clean and set the points. Set the timing.
      (Now you should be figuring out why you need that manual. )
      Make sure the starter, solenoid, battery, and cables are up to snuff, and the starter will turn the motor over easily.
      Have enough wiring to run the ignition and starter.
      Put the bike in gear, pull the clutch lever, and see if you can roll the bike. That will tell you if the clutch is releasing.

      If all this is done properly, you can jump in and fire that mother up. And see if it runs, how it sounds, does it smoke, etc. Make sure oil is returning to the tank.

      If all's good, see if it will shift into gear, and ride it around a little.

      Then you can start working on the wiring harness,,generator and regulator, and the brakes, wheel bearings, chain and sprockets, etc.

      Should be good fun.

      Jim

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      • West7
        Member
        • Jun 2019
        • 46

        #4
        First of all congratulations on your new sportster powered death trap. Looks cool judging by your profile picture. Got any more pics?

        I'd do compression and leakdown wet and dry to start it's the best diagnostic test to get a general idea of the condition of the engine.

        +2 on ripping the fuel system apart and replacing all soft parts. I'd replace all soft parts on the entire bike myself.

        If you start riding this thing regularly I'd recommend a cycle electric generator/regulator

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        • TriNortchopz
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2017
          • 3256

          #5
          Well you sure came to the right place to get the info you need^^^^. I don't know lots about HDs but keep learnin' from those in the know^^^, and researching and sharing from info I find interesting; like this:

          Technical Stickys Index - TuneUps, ReBuilds, Etc, Etc, Etc...
          "Here is a collection of informative posts made by many of us here in the ironhead forum. If you have a question about your bike, or need to fix something, your probably not the first. To avoid common threads from popping up day after day, and to keep especially informative posts a few clicks away, this collection of threads has been organized for your use..."


          I saw a couple of links there for 'un-storage', and liked the comment about a sticking valve which was held in the open position for years while stored...of course, as recommended above, a valve adjustment will catch that.
          If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...

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          • BlackThumbClan
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2019
            • 5

            #6
            Wow, Thank you everyone, especially JBinNC. I have the Clymer's manual. Is there a better manual out there? The original Harley service manual is extremely expensive and hard to find.

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            I immediately did a quick flat black paint on the tank as there was a hideous hack job lightning bolt on it.

            I'll be starting the work on it tomorrow.

            Also, the PO has a 16inch stock wheel for it he's offering to sell for $100. My ultimate plan is to take the bike on road trips. Would it behove me to pick it up now as I've read there's more stability in the 16? It's currently running an 18.

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            • farmall
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 9983

              #7
              See the Carl Salter site for free .pdfs. I'd not care about swapping rear wheels, just make sure what you have is good. Can't hurt to have a spare rear wheel though.

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              • BlackThumbClan
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2019
                • 5

                #8
                Thanks farmall! That Salter site is an incredible resource!

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                • West7
                  Member
                  • Jun 2019
                  • 46

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BlackThumbClan
                  Wow, Thank you everyone, especially JBinNC. I have the Clymer's manual. Is there a better manual out there? The original Harley service manual is extremely expensive and hard to find.

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                  I immediately did a quick flat black paint on the tank as there was a hideous hack job lightning bolt on it.

                  I'll be starting the work on it tomorrow.

                  Also, the PO has a 16inch stock wheel for it he's offering to sell for $100. My ultimate plan is to take the bike on road trips. Would it behove me to pick it up now as I've read there's more stability in the 16? It's currently running an 18.
                  Looks good in black dude. Spraying a bike black is the first thing I do every time I get my hands on a new one.

                  Harley manual is worth it. Should be able to find one cheap if you keep looking.

                  16 inch with a fatter tire will ride better that extra bit of tire is all the suspension you've got.

                  I would strongly consider tracking down a rear disc setup. No way I'd trust my life to old rear drum brakes only but to each their own.
                  Last edited by West7; 09-02-2019, 9:46 PM.

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                  • BlackThumbClan
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Thanks West, I'll start looking at what's viable for this year. I'll keep on looking for a manual too. I might just print it off Salter's site and 3 ring bind it.

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                    • 10scDust
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 190

                      #11
                      VG info here, I also like to look at the plugs, to see if it has been burning oil, you'll be able to tell.

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                      • Tattooo
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 12407

                        #12
                        Originally posted by West7
                        I would strongly consider tracking down a rear disc setup. No way I'd trust my life to old rear drum brakes only but to each their own.
                        A drum will stop just as good as a disc if set up properly........ Plus they look much better, to me that is...........

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                        • hillcat
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1443

                          #13
                          Maybe IF it is brand new and set up properly but where they begin to suck is at repeated stopping, heating up and fading.
                          O-ring chains are better too,HaHa!

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                          • Tattooo
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 12407

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hillcat
                            Maybe IF it is brand new and set up properly but where they begin to suck is at repeated stopping, heating up and fading.
                            I ride in the mountains and I ride hard and I've never had any problems with fad at all....... So I guess I set my drums up better than most..... LOL

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                            • farmall
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 9983

                              #15
                              Lack of front brakes measurably increases stopping distance by many feet. On the rear drum or disc will do because weight transfer unloads the rear wheel easily limiting max braking. Unless you hate safety or ride slow and rely on prayer an effective front brake is a good idea. It's not possible for a given rear brake to work as effectively as that same brake plus a proper front brake. Physics doesn't care about feelings.

                              The older front disc brakes were pathetic because Bubba feared they would put him over the bars (retarded old biker myth) and riders were used to feeble drums. All braking effectiveness is testable and measurable. We did that over hundreds of bikes of all brands when I taught MSF.

                              If road tripping I'd fit a front brake. There are many options. How deep can you afford to spear some soccercunt's minivan when she cuts you off?
                              ....

                              A good bit of oil likely made its way to the crankcase. I pull the timing plug and rotate the engine to blow it out (outdoors). Check fasteners for looseness. All-metal locknuts and Loctite are your friends.

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