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    Hey, I just found out the diff. between a Chopper and a Bobber ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriNortchopz View Post
    Great build thread ya got there.
    Attachment 96233
    A bracket that bolts tight to the caliper won't bend.
    Looks like you already cut off the slotted tab on your caliper that the above linked weld-on bracket would slide into. I think a slot equal to the axle movement with a 90 degree tab with two round 'cutouts' welded to the inside of the frame would be strong and clean...I can see it but can't describe it well.
    Sometimes I overthink shit; even just a tab like this with a solid spacer would work:
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    http://www.bitterendchoppers.com/FrameParts5.html
    Hey man, didn't mean to ignore your response. Yours is a good idea, but I had already ordered a replacement caliper that hasn't been cut like I did with mine.

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    chop on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater66 View Post
    The bracket i posted will work. Used them before. The link i posted is only the first example i found and the price is dumb. Shop around and you may find something less pricey. It will definitely need some massaging. Wheel and fresh chain must be installed to get location correct.
    Once installed it will blend in like it belongs there unlike some attempts I have seen.

    On a side note, I have used the caliper on a swingarm Shovel. 1/4" angle welded to swingarm.
    Tater,

    I have the bracket in hand (along with an unmolested, replacement Softail caliper). I've mocked up the bracket, caliper, and wheel in place.

    I've never done this before, or seen it done, so I'm a bit nervous about moving forward.

    I can see where I need to grind away a bit of the bracket to make it sit better on the frame; that's not a concern.

    I see how the caliper has an X shape cut into it, I'm assuming to allow for varying angles on the brake stay.

    My concern is twofold: I want to make sure I locate the bracket on correctly AND be sure I can take the wheel assembly off and reinstall it once the bracket is welded into place. It's a really tight fit in there.

    The wheel, with new chain, is only a few millimeters away from the front of the adjusting slots; there's lots of room to move beck if needed.

    Any advice to offer to make sure I don't fuck this up completely? Where should I locate the brake on the bracket? Centered? More front? More back?

    I have a local chop shop welder who says it'll be a quick job for him.
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    Mount the bracket so the caliper will have the best fit regardless of axle location in the slot. Remove chain so you can move axle to each end of the axle slot and center it from there.

    Apparently, it is not too much of a problem; look how 79Josh81 mounted the tab on his wide tire XS recently:

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    ^^^^ Holy fucking weld.... I would not recommend doing the above set up for your tab. If i was going to use this style i would have used a piece of angle iron cut to match the angle of the lower tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobberadam View Post
    ^^^^ Holy fucking weld.... I would not recommend doing the above set up for your tab. If i was going to use this style i would have used a piece of angle iron cut to match the angle of the lower tube.
    Yup, yikes it is, or as you say, WTFW; I suggested additional support, but he is okay with it and said it works...

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    Lol, at first glance when this pic scrolled onto my screen, my initial thought was "WTF did he do here!?!" I mean I've heard of 'hybrids', but shit! Too funny. Good work man, keep it rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriNortchopz View Post
    Yup, yikes it is, or as you say, WTFW; I suggested additional support, but he is okay with it and said it works...
    Things always work until they don't...

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    Tri--

    I'll give that a try. Thanks.

    Bobby--

    The bracket I have is much mute substantial than that and shaped to fit the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbswear View Post
    Tater,


    I can see where I need to grind away a bit of the bracket to make it sit better on the frame; that's not a concern.

    I see how the caliper has an X shape cut into it, I'm assuming to allow for varying angles on the brake stay.



    The "X" allows you to lift caliper onto stay easily then swing caliper up to slip axle into it. Its a bit of a juggling act to get that shit to line up. Thats why I stab axle in thru sprocket side first. Much easier for me. Nothing like trying to get left side spacer in past sprocket bolts.




    My concern is twofold: I want to make sure I locate the bracket on correctly AND be sure I can take the wheel assembly off and reinstall it once the bracket is welded into place. It's a really tight fit in there.


    See above.




    The wheel, with new chain, is only a few millimeters away from the front of the adjusting slots; there's lots of room to move beck if needed.


    Thats why I said new chain. make damn sure thats the sprocket you want. Bigger sprocket pulls wheel towards front.
    If you are certain that the combo you have is the combo thats gonna stay then allow a bit of room in front of caliper so it can wiggle while you get the axle and other shit in place.



    I have a local chop shop welder who says it'll be a quick job for him.


    Tack it in and play with it a bunch before burning it solid.
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    Oops. Also may want a chain with 2 more links to get a bit more adjust ment

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    I actually removed a link because it was so far back in the adjuster slots that my adjusting bolts were nearly at the end of their reach.

    If need be I'll put then back.

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    Oh, just read the rest of your response in the quote.

    Cool beans. Thanks.

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    A proper sized and grade bolt would not bend
    Been done and run a thousand times
    If you are concerned about failure under braking forces, do some math or overbuild it.
    Same goes for a tab
    brake stay is another option
    Heim joints and a rod for example



    Two personal observations...

    JBswear seems like an overthinker, probably a good thing in the the aerospace industry. Sometimes the simplest cleanest setups require a great deal of forethought. Don't forget to think about ease of maintenance and repair.

    And Tattoo knows what he is talking about. Just never get in a pissing contest with him. He's got more piss and vinegar than most ��

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    Yup, I'm guilty of over thinking things. I'll be the first to admit it!
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    Meanwhile at Jbswear and Tattoo's house....

    CL5-Rkk-SUMAAjlt-X

    Come on guys. You're roommates. Cut it out and make up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCloudSalvage View Post
    Meanwhile at Jbswear and Tattoo's house....

    Come on guys. You're roommates. Cut it out and make up!

    What are you talking about??????????
    Last edited by Tattooo; 08-19-2019 at 10:34 AM.

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    Tell you what: How about a truce?

    You stop and I'll stop.

    How's that sound?

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    Find a pic of a soft tail swingarm and look at the bracket..... It is a very simple design.....
    Last edited by Tattooo; 08-19-2019 at 10:47 AM.

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