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    Default So, let's talk shovesters

    OK, I did a search for shovesters and read all the threads that popped up, but from what I read, no one actually has or built a shovester. I have an opportunity to buy an ironhead motor and the guy does have some shovel cylinders and heads and I thought it would be cool to build one. What I do not know is how much machining is needed for the cylinders, can I use the ironhead rotating assembly etc.... Or, should I just settle for stock jugs and bore them out big time....

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    holy shit that is nasty

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    I think if no one was lookin'... I'd fuck that bike.

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    its a ton of work...need to weld up the cases right to the lifter holes. plug and re machine the cases for shovel bolt pattern. external drains. dependingon the stroke you can use shovel pistons i think. the cylinders are a bit taller i think theres a stroke that works out with the shovel piston to get the right deck heght. machine rocker boxes to get the pushrod tubes right..its a lot of messin around but wilh itl be rad.90 inches with 45/8 stroke and 80" barrels. oh yea it wont fit any frames itll be an inch taller than ih motor...i just happen to have a brand new paughco for sale if you want a frame to wedge it in...and dont bother boring your stock barrels past60 thou...its not really worth any power just using em up faster.

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    without ron trock around to make cylinders for it anymore its just not worth the effort to make a shovster. way to much welding and machining was needed when the cylinders were available. but that king of cubes company makes big inch ironhead cylinders o run with ironheads that flow better than shovels anyway and still would have a 90+ inch sporty with less work.
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    why i do think it looks very cool i just think its kinda a waste with todays technology.. you could build a mild compression stroker motor with some nice cams and a bitchen set of ported heads nice exhaust and carb set up and be faster then you would ever need to go on the street and you would still be able to get the parts anywhere unlike having a shovester where everything is custom but if your doing it to be different then more power to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironlance View Post
    why i do think it looks very cool i just think its kinda a waste with todays technology.. you could build a mild compression stroker motor with some nice cams and a bitchen set of ported heads nice exhaust and carb set up and be faster then you would ever need to go on the street and you would still be able to get the parts anywhere unlike having a shovester where everything is custom but if your doing it to be different then more power to you
    Simply because it's different and in some cases different rules.
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    +1 dont do it if your looking for an economical built...i have a 90" iron head and it fuckin rips. but even with factory head castings ill be the first to tell ya theres nothing off the shelf in it...exept the rings. i could have built 3 nice evo sportsters with the money but thats just not me. plus its worth spanking new bikes with an old piece of shit girls bike....r.i.p ron trock.

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    dont listen to these guys, do it and make a thread on it. a quick google search will point you to a couple threads of guys on other sites doing it. While I dont have any technical info on it, I highly encourage it.

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    well, I hopped on google, did a shit ton of reading and I probably will not go the shovester route. For one, I cannot weld and my budget is not set up to handle any of the costs associated with it. Maybe next time I am having a beer with Teach I can talk him in to helping me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsterBob View Post
    god damn i wanna see and hear that thing in person.

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    fuckin' a man. knuckster. good god damn.

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    Strip it and stoke it. Cams dual plugs and a few others for half the price. But its still stuck in my head

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    sweet! i like em both!

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    I've got one. Just got it. I didn't build it, but I'm goin to make it mine.
    72 XLCH lower, 83 shovel top with Trock cylinders.
    3 7/16" bore and 4 5/8" stroke....... 86 cubic inches.
    The Sporty trans was chopped off and its belted to a ratchet top now.
    Hand shift, foot clutch, split rockerboxes, Paughco frame, Denvers springer, no front brake.
    Motor is apart right now.
    Previous owner had an oil pump problem and seized a piston.
    Its gonna need new pistons, a bore job, and a new oil pump.
    The bottom end seems ok.
    I'm workin on it now. Gonna change a few things around.
    ... the brake and clutch, the bars, the oil return, and clean up the wiring, etc....
    Hope to have it going this summer.


    You don't have to do any welding on the cases unless you are going with a 3 1/2" bore or bigger.
    You just need a set of cylinders with a Sporty base bolt pattern and a Shovel head bolt pattern that are the right length. I haven't measured the cylinders yet, but I will. You could get Hyperformance or Axtell to make you a set of cylinders. Thats what I'm going to do. I just picked up a 73 Sportster engine, and a set of dual carb panheads. Gonna take what I learn from rebuilding this Shovster and put together a dual carb Panster. I'll post the dimensions of those cylinders here once I get em measured up, in case somebody else wants to take a shot at it.


    Yeah, I need to do a little welding and porting in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezeerider View Post
    I've got one. Just got it. I didn't build it, but I'm goin to make it mine.
    72 XLCH lower, 83 shovel top with Trock cylinders.
    3 7/16" bore and 4 5/8" stroke....... 86 cubic inches.
    The Sporty trans was chopped off and its belted to a ratchet top now.
    Hand shift, foot clutch, split rockerboxes, Paughco frame, Denvers springer, no front brake.
    Motor is apart right now.
    Previous owner had an oil pump problem and seized a piston.
    Its gonna need new pistons, a bore job, and a new oil pump.
    The bottom end seems ok.
    I'm workin on it now. Gonna change a few things around.
    ... the brake and clutch, the bars, the oil return, and clean up the wiring, etc....
    Hope to have it going this summer.


    You don't have to do any welding on the cases unless you are going with a 3 1/2" bore or bigger.
    You just need a set of cylinders with a Sporty base bolt pattern and a Shovel head bolt pattern that are the right length. I haven't measured the cylinders yet, but I will. You could get Hyperformance or Axtell to make you a set of cylinders. Thats what I'm going to do. I just picked up a 73 Sportster engine, and a set of dual carb panheads. Gonna take what I learn from rebuilding this Shovster and put together a dual carb Panster. I'll post the dimensions of those cylinders here once I get em measured up, in case somebody else wants to take a shot at it.


    Yeah, I need to do a little welding and porting in there.
    making me drool....... I love shovesters, knucksters, pansters, as well as magnum 45s ...

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    Was there a lot of work to the shovster I wanted to make a 74” shovster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattst1 View Post
    Was there a lot of work to the shovster ?
    Good question ....

    Perhaps a Fella that been down this road more times then he can remember will add his 2 cents to the thread ...

    Oh u who ... Ronnie ...
    Mr. Trock would you be so kind to enlighten all of us ... Please ..
    (And Thank You)
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