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  1. #81

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    Did you already hard tail the frame? IMO the 'softail' frame and a minimalist rigid seat is a better way to go than a sprung seat on a hard tail frame both for looks and a cushy ride.

    I'm about to go for another ~1400 mile ride this weekend on my XVS650 and not only is the seat ridiculously low but the rear suspension is cloud smooth even on the hellish pot-holed roads of Michigan.

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    Yes Skjoll , I agree with your opinion completely . But ! (A) I find it uncomfortable to sit on a minimalist seat , Wether the bike has good suspension or none .( b) I’ve set my heart on having the fuel tank under the seat , and I like the idea of removing the weight and all the clutter as well .
    So it’s gonna be a matter of making a seat that kinda looks ok , and sort of making my own way with it , which will probably be errrrm fun !

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    Gotcha. Hope whatever you chose works out. It must suck to get hit with spine issues.

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    Thanks Skjoll , guess it’ll take a bit of experimenting to get it to look “ right “ for me.
    And no it’s not great but it’s not serious and relatively manageable .
    Plus I can still enjoy riding , I just need a different seat style

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    Thinking on my feet a bit here , as the seat is gonna be bigger than expected it kinda puts the sporty tank out of proportion .
    So ( at the mo ) Gonna keep the seat top surface appx the same as it is ,with the sides shaped to fit to the frame rails . But gonna build a seat frame , then use horizontal “mattress “ type springs . With appx the same amount of foam as at the moment . Which is quite comfortable except for the worst bumps . That should improve the comfort and not look so awkward !.
    Then maybe a bigger “ tank” , that looks more “Japanese bike “ have an idea on that , but will think it thru !

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    Apologies for the rubbish pics . But I’m reasonably sure I have a “ revised, lol “ plan ! The damaged tank in the pic will be the “electrics box” cover , I will of course repair the damage (it’s much easier with all the base and tunnel removed ) , have checked and the battery will fit under there ok and there should be plenty of room for the rest of the electrics . That will leave room under that , between the frame rails for the remote master cylinder with maybe the fluid reservoir in the electrics box ? . To keep all that tucked virtually out of site .
    Seems to be starting to gel now !

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    Ok have tried it with the pillion seat on , and it looks good “to me “
    In brief , I need to remake the rider seat and colour match it to the pillion seat + a sissy bar backrest pad !
    Hardtail it , repair the tank and paint it to match the mudguards which need repainting . Sort the electrics . De chrome the engine cases .the paint the head and barrels black .
    Rework the front brake system , make a fuel tank for under the seat plumb it in and wire up the pump , finish the inlet manifold fit it and tune the carb to suit . Plus de lug and finish painting the frame and a few small asst jobs inc the leccy box
    But it’s starting to feel as if I’m nearly there now . Lol
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    Ok managed to get the switchgear fitted today , plus run the wires down thru the bars . Levers + throttle assembly are fitted . That’s it for the bars just gotta drop the wires down thru the the top yoke where they come out the bars and fit the front brake cable .
    Left side is dip and horn which works . The right is kill switch and starter , which I’ve yet to sort out ..

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    Oops there’ll be a pair of mirrors as well

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    Found this so thought it may be of interest:

    2003 Yamaha Vstar 650 bobber roller
    $800
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    Titled frame, new straight backbone, all parts included from donor bike, engine partially disassembled. Professional welder. Low mileage and ready to drop in your engine. Frame is done, tank, fenders and front end work continue. Price goes up as I complete each phase. Battle Ground IN

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    Thanks TriNortchopz always handy to have another take on the idea. The single top tube looks cool .

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    Attachment 98109

    I know itís a lot more work , but I wasnít quite happy with the damaged black ďtankĒ .
    So I took the angle grinder to the original tank , as I had already modified it .
    I took about 2Ē width out the front and appx 5Ē out the back , and tacked / taped it together . Then cut all the tunnel out and about 1.25Ē of the bottom .
    I think itís well cool and much more in proportion .
    But as I said a lot more work to finish .
    Will prob take the filler neck out as well ,when I get some blades for my jigsaw .
    Then use it in the under seat petrol tank !
    Well itís a plan , lol
    Last edited by dowood1; 11-05-2019 at 5:32 PM.

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    Now I’m wondering if my welding skills , with the welder I’ve got are good enough to make it the fuel tank ! !

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    Sorry here’s the pics again !
    And making it the “ fuel tank ” is a non starter .
    Last edited by dowood1; 11-06-2019 at 1:51 AM.

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    Has anyone used or know how good / effective the “durafix” type low temp aluminium welding rods are ?
    I am thinking of maybe using them for making the petrol tank for under the seat , prob from 2mm aluminium sheet .
    found some info on line , but wanna be sure as it’s for petrol , and I’ll be sitting just above it , lol
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    Have wired up the light switch ( in pic )
    Have got all the switches figured out and working now .
    Except the indicator switches which should be easy . They will bet set in the electrics cover along with the lighting switch !
    Also found a tail trim cheap on e bay for the silencer which I think looks cool . ( but will dispense with the red tape lol )

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    Made a start on the seat frame today , but it was done in between showers and rushing before the light faded . The first pic shows a rough mock up ( using wall paper ) to see how it could look . Gonna taper the flat bar at the rear ended (to mount the springs on ) to half the width at the top , ran out of light before I could do anything else . I’m gonna make a lip under the front end to hook it on . Then use the key operated side panel lock on the bike to lock the rear to the mudguard / fender , for easy access as the filler cap will be under there.

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  18. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by dowood1 View Post
    Has anyone used or know how good / effective the ďdurafixĒ type low temp aluminium welding rods are ?
    I am thinking of maybe using them for making the petrol tank for under the seat , prob from 2mm aluminium sheet .
    found some info on line , but wanna be sure as itís for petrol , and Iíll be sitting just above it , lol
    I've used similar rods, not for joining butted alu sheet but when done properly the joints are strong and the rods are definitely fuel safe. Have you considered making a fuel tank using fiberglass? It's easy to make a form out of rigid foam incorporating complex shapes and compound curves.

    How big of a tank do you want to make?

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    Thanks Skjoll , yeah kinda like the idea of fibreglass but at the mo , not sure bouts itís legality for a petrol tank in the uk . Plus minor concerns about ethanol Proofing it , which I know can be done .
    The capacity will be appx 2.5 to 3 gals . Depending on how much space I can liberate under the seat when I hardtail it and remove / cut away all the ď junk ď under there .
    The other option is to (weld) panel in the area under the seat , to be the tank, Which would also allow a marginally bigger capacity .
    I quite like that idea too.
    But not convinced on any one option yet !

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    On a different subject completely I was gonna try and cover the he front seat to match the pillion seat beige/ tan colour which looks cool to me .
    But I have also found an orange marine vinyl , which is close to the orange paint I have/ will use , so maybe orange seats , or perhaps even 1 orange 1 silver seat , lol . Haven’t come to a decision yet .
    Think this is gonna have a kind of light hearted / humerous 70’s look to it .
    Not every bodies taste I know !

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