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    Is it just me or are Shovels getting real popular? Seems like every week somebody else just bought one. Glad to see it but just curious as to why.

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    Harley-Davidson Shovelhead V-Twin Motorcycles - HISTORY OF THE BIG TWIN

    The Harley-Davidson Shovelhead V-twin was introduced in 1966. Here’s a look at the technical evolution of the 74-cu.-in. engine and chassis of Harley-Davidson’s long-running OHV Big Twin




    By Kevin Cameron August 20, 2016

    When Harley-Davidson first introduced the Shovelhead engine in 1966, sales increased by 26 percent, to 36,210 units per year.

    Courtesy of Harley-Davidson

    1966 Mainly to produce more power to maintain performance at the new higher weights of bikes with electric start, rear suspension, etc., the Shovelhead engine is introduced, produced 1966-85. Sales increase 26 percent, to 36,310 units.

    First-year Shovelheads were given aluminum versions of Sportster iron heads (long fore-and-aft fins, straighter ports giving 10 percent more power—the so-called “Power-Pac.” These heads have less deep combustion chambers and their valve included angle drops to 78.5 degrees (intake is 40.25 degrees from centerline, exhaust is 38.25 degrees). The importance of this is that the shallower the combustion chamber, the less surface area it has through which combustion heat can enter the head. Also, as compression ratio rose from the 6.0:1 range of the original “E” to higher numbers such as 8.0:1, piston domes had to grow taller, both interfering with combustion and gaining in crown surface area, causing pistons to run hotter. The shallower chamber helped cooling and worked better at higher compression ratios than did the old 90-degree valve-angle chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbard View Post
    Is it just me or are Shovels getting real popular? Seems like every week somebody else just bought one. Glad to see it but just curious as to why.
    It's because Pans and Knucks and flat side Shovels are well out of the price range for the average guy............

    Well that's my take anyways.......

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    Of course they are popular, they always have been. Very viscerally mechanical, but with modern touches like electric start and disc brakes (on most). What's not to like?
    Plus, the prices are depressingly low (for those of us who own them), which is good for them that wants them.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBinNC View Post
    Plus, the prices are depressingly low (for those of us who own them), which is good

    Jim

    Not for long, give them a few years and see where they are..... I'm saying it will be less than 5 years and people will be saying Shovels are out of reach for the beginner builder.... Like Pans are today....

    I remember when pans were a little over a grand for a running bike.....

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    I'm still trying to find that Panhead patch you posted a few years back

    "Your Evo's ok, but I'll take a Panhead anyday"

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    for me, its affordable... and there's still lots of parts out there that people don't think they can retire off of selling one item for a million bucks. like pan and knuckle parts...

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    Personally I am pleased the younger people are interested in older scooters and it is refreshing to see that you folks are not too fucking lazy to get dirty and try to learn something mechanical instead of devoting your total waking hours to the latest communication device from the orient. Bravo kids, Bravo.

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    ^^^^^ This ^^^^^

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    I feel like they were the last 5-10 years. Now everyone just gets newer bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tattooo View Post
    Not for long, give them a few years and see where they are..... I'm saying it will be less than 5 years and people will be saying Shovels are out of reach for the beginner builder.... Like Pans are today....

    I remember when pans were a little over a grand for a running bike.....
    Right? It disgusts me and makes me sick to my stomach now, to think of all the pans I walked past 35+ years ago that could have been had for so little money. Lots of the guys I knew back when the evo came out ended up selling their pans and shovels to buy one. I still have my shovel. Wish I could still get one of those pans for the old price though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbard View Post
    Is it just me or are Shovels getting real popular? Seems like every week somebody else just bought one. Glad to see it but just curious as to why.
    They are becoming more affordable as their original or second owners die or quit riding. There are still enough old bikers to keep Pan prices high and there were never a lot of Pans by comparison. (Twinkies are the most produced big twin.)

    They have classic looks with reasonable reliability (given aggressive use of locknuts and Loctite) and are easy to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post
    I'm still trying to find that Panhead patch you posted a few years back

    "Your Evo's ok, but I'll take a Panhead anyday"
    I slept since then ... !!

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    I just bought my first Shovel the other day Now the tear down and rebuild starts lol.

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    I would definitely be classed as a “young guy” when I bought mine at 25. At the time it was all cost related, I would’ve loved a Pan, but as mentioned by others it was just unaffordable.

    Funnily enough nowadays I feel like my Shovel is too “new”...doesn’t mean I don’t love it to bits though

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyNZ View Post
    I would definitely be classed as a “young guy” when I bought mine at 25. At the time it was all cost related, I would’ve loved a Pan, but as mentioned by others it was just unaffordable.

    Funnily enough nowadays I feel like my Shovel is too “new”...doesn’t mean I don’t love it to bits though
    A lot of people love shovelheads to bits. That's what creates basket cases.��

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    If you kids will accept the fact that you have to exorcise the demons that all the previous owners put in 'em you will have a fine mo'sheen. INSPECT EVERYTHING, do not take anything for granted. Black oil means zero maintenance. Keep in mind everybody don't love a Harley like some of us here. To most people it's just a status symbol.

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    I wouldn’t say a fine machine, but you can make them run down the road if you don’t want to do 90+ tank after tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post
    I'm still trying to find that Panhead patch you posted a few years back

    "Your Evo's ok, but I'll take a Panhead anyday"
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    $22.95 postage paid in the U.S. and CANADA
    http://www.roadratroberts1.bravepages.com/Patches2.htm

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