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  • Revelator
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2990

    #16
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    • Sky
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 3038

      #17
      Of course a proper tune will get "the most" HP out of a given pile of parts.
      But the final gearing determines wheel speed at a given RPM.
      So, if two bikes with the same rev limit
      And same final drive ratio
      But different HP outputs
      Hit the dragstrip
      Their 0-60 times would be different
      But thier top speeds would be the same
      (given enough track)

      No one mentioned power to weight yet...
      Again, this will only affect acceleration, not top speed.

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      • Sky
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 3038

        #18
        Haha! Revelator beat me to the punch by five minutes.
        Put that bike on a diet!
        And tell these chopular guys horizontal stripes are not slimming

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        • chopprs
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2018
          • 102

          #19
          Originally posted by Sky
          Of course a proper tune will get "the most" HP out of a given pile of parts.
          But the final gearing determines wheel speed at a given RPM.
          So, if two bikes with the same rev limit
          And same final drive ratio
          But different HP outputs
          Hit the dragstrip
          Their 0-60 times would be different
          But thier top speeds would be the same
          (given enough track)

          No one mentioned power to weight yet...
          Again, this will only affect acceleration, not top speed.
          Not necessarily true. The one with more horsepower would have greater ability to overcome wind resistance at speed and would likely gain a few mph with the extra power.

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          • Tattooo
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 12407

            #20
            Originally posted by Dragstews
            Windows 10 ....

            I bought the Wingnut updates ....
            It's ok Jesse he's just jealous....

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            • chopprs
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2018
              • 102

              #21
              Originally posted by Tattooo
              It's ok Jesse he's just jealous....

              That is it! I am caught...yep, you got me!

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              • Tattooo
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 12407

                #22
                Originally posted by chopprs
                That is it! I am caught...yep, you got me!
                Hell it's obvious.....

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                • 907Mike
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 3

                  #23
                  I'm running a 29.5 pilot jet & a 70 main jet, revlimiter set at 5500, I got the accel pump turned off until dialed in which I think it is, running straight pipes, 9 to 1 wiscos, v-thunder cam 485 lift, I'm not sure of the gearing but its high. It sounds like 74's are dogs & my problem is not enough power. We can fix that. This is my first time to post & thanks for the information

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                  • 907Mike
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 3

                    #24
                    Originally posted by chopprs
                    Well most near stock 74's won't do much more than that but there are some questions. Is the main jet correct? Why do you have the pump turned off? Is the rev limiter set too low on your electronic ignition? What exhaust do you have? If all is correct and the bike is running right I would suggest a little more compression which can be as simple as some thinner head and base gaskets, depending on what you have...or some new pistons. Of course, more inches will always do it but my 80"er will do over 100 easy...
                    I'm running 29.5 pilot & a 70 main jet, revlimiter set at 5500, accel. pump turned off while tuning which is pretty much done, straight pipes, 9 to 1 wisco pistons, v-thunder 485 lift cam, & gearing is high don't know ratios. It sounds like it is what it is, a dog. I'm afraid I won't be able to kick this thing if I bump it up th 96".

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                    • farmall
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 9983

                      #25
                      Dragstews, lets see what an Andrews A grind rates using that program.

                      A GRIND OPEN CLOSE DURATION at .053 VALVE LIFT
                      SHOVEL PAN

                      Intake 21 Deg. 43 Deg. 244 Deg. .450 .470
                      Exhaust 43 Deg. 21 Deg. 244 Deg. .450 .470

                      I'm afraid I won't be able to kick this thing if I bump it up to 96".
                      Compression releases are an option as are longer kicker arms. If your engine is freshly rebuilt and you want to build a stroker it might make more sense to buy a set of aftermarket cases and sell or stash the stock engine. You could even go alternator/generator cases for vintage sexy with the advantage of an alternator and easy magneto mounting if into mags.

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                      • Dragstews
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 13739

                        #26
                        The 96" kit from S&S is rated at 9:1
                        Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                        • chopprs
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2018
                          • 102

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dragstews
                          The 96" kit from S&S is rated at 9:1

                          I would not buy a "kit" from anyone. It limits you to whatever their bean counters think is appropriate. In this case you get stuck with the generic S&S stroker piston which is made by Wiseco...who makes pistons that have had issue lately.

                          The alternative also does not always have to be more expensive. In this case it is not. Ultima wheels are STEEL and exact copies of the S&S wheels. Ultima rods are super nice, super strong and super cheap, opt for the unsized ones and make it perfect! S&S does make nice shafts and I like to use them. For pistons the KB forged units are indestructible and come packaged like jewelry with moly coated skirts for safety against problems during break in.
                          You get more strength, more compression, better finished product and spend less money...oh and more power too!

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                          • Dragstews
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 13739

                            #28
                            Originally posted by farmall

                            Dragstews, lets see what an Andrews A grind rates using that program.
                            Let's let chopprs run the program...

                            Being he talks the talk, lets see if he can walk the walk ... ??

                            Your up Big Boy ... Have at it .
                            Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                            • chopprs
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 102

                              #29
                              Why, I already know the answer?...you were the one that seems to want to find out so go ahead.

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                              • Tattooo
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 12407

                                #30
                                Originally posted by chopprs
                                Why, I already know the answer?...you were the one that seems to want to find out so go ahead.
                                LOL Yea right..... Just the answer I expected from you..........
                                Last edited by Tattooo; 10-23-2018, 7:46 PM.

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