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    Hi,
    I have a 1978 shovelhead.
    The frame VIN number ID's it as 1978
    I have a V5 Log Book (an English Title) so No problem there.....

    on it, it says it was first registered In the USA on 01/01/1978.
    the bike was imported from The States about 3 years ago,(not by me) and when the paperwork was done
    to get it registered here in England, the DVLA (English DMV) took the date it was first registered on the American Title
    & that's where the date 01/01/1978 came from.

    Now, under English Rules, if I can Prove it was BUILT before 01/01/1978, (which it must have been, if it was registered in the states on that exact date) if I can prove an earlier date of manufacture, it will become TAX exempt and not liable for any yearly inspection as well.

    is it possible to get a day and month of actual manufacture from the frame VIN number, ?????
    the VIN number is 2F750**H8 .

    I know it left the factory as a 1200 FXS in 1978 but can any of you out there get it closer than just the year.
    thanks for your help on this,.... just need it to become TAX & MOT exempt......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzienlee View Post
    is it possible to get a day and month of actual manufacture from the frame VIN number, ????? the VIN number is … 2F750**H8 .
    I don't think it's possible....

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    Thanks Tattooo ,.... I couldn't remember if it could be done,...
    i'll have a look at the top motor mount but it's all fresh powder coat and I didn't want to bugger it up,....
    looks like i'll just pay the tax !!! hahhahahahaha
    (or run it on an old American Licence plate I have !!) hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzienlee View Post
    Thanks Tattooo ,.... I couldn't remember if it could be done,...
    i'll have a look at the top motor mount but it's all fresh powder coat and I didn't want to bugger it up,....
    looks like i'll just pay the tax !!! hahhahahahaha
    (or run it on an old American Licence plate I have !!) hahahaha
    Yea I have a 79 FXS and I know it's the later year one because it's an 80ci but other than that who knows? It's not like todays numbers that you can break it down to the day...

    How much more is the taxes for one year older on a bike that old.... I think mine are $35.00 on my 79 for a year...

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    It works out to about $100 a year here,
    not a stupid amount of Folding, but still,... the Pub was gonna get it !!! haahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzienlee View Post
    It works out to about $100 a year here,
    not a stupid amount of Folding, but still,... the Pub was gonna get it !!! haahahaha
    Now that is a good bit I would have tried also... Drink up..... I'm fixing to go get me a cold one here in a few...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tattooo View Post
    Now that is a good bit I would have tried also... Drink up..... I'm fixing to go get me a cold one here in a few...
    Do Hardlys still have belly numbers that tell the month the engine was align bored? Too new for me I owned a couple of Hardlys as new a 57 once. If they still do maybe you could snooker them into believing that was a build date. Lying to the Government is a fine art!

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    The belly numbers give the date on which it was built. Going by that you should be able to figure out what day it was build.
    This text is something I found somewhere and have saved:

    Take a look at your belly numbers. Starting in 1975 MoCo changed the numbering procedure. It uses the Julian date. For example a 1975 FL model which was produced on January 1, 1975 would appear as follows: 1 75 001 001

    where 1 = Model (FL), 75 =year, 001 = Julian date (Jan 1) and 001 = sequential unit produced that day


    Capital Drive Numbers
    Crankcase Identification Numbers stamped at Capitol Drive facility (Milwaukee), used to identify engine and track production changes. The numbers are located on both left and right crankcase halves.



    Big Twin:
    Left Case - Outside lower front
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    Right Case - Inside gear case compartment



    XL Models:
    Left Case - Inside primary compartment
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    Right Case - Outside near oil pump






    Example: 1992 244 137



    15 = Engine Designation
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    1 = 1200cc Shovelhead
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    7 = 1000cc Iron XL
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    14 = 1340cc Shovelhead
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    15 = 1340cc Evolution
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    16 = XR-1000
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    17 = 883cc Evolution XL
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    18 = 1100cc Evolution XL
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    19 = 1200cc Evolution XL
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    20 = 1340cc Evolution - California (1988 - ?)
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    21 = 883cc Evolution XL- California (1988 - ?)
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    22 = 1200cc Evolution XL- California (1988 - ?)



    92 = Model Year


    244 = Day of Production
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    001 = Jan. 1st******* 182 = Jul. 1st
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    032 = Feb. 1st******* 213 = Aug. 1st
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    060 = Mar. 1st******* 244 = Sep. 1st
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    091 = Apr. 1st******* 274 = Oct. 1st
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    121 = May* 1st******* 305 = Nov. 1st
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    152 = Jun. 1st******* 335 = Dec. 1st



    137 = Unit Number That Day (production number)

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    not got the original motor in it so cant do it that way,...
    it's not worth ruining the powder coat or i'd check the frame date code on the top motor mount,
    I'll run it with a dodgy USA plate or just tax it if all else fails,.....
    ,...……..thanks for all the prompt reply's fellas...………...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzienlee View Post
    not got the original motor in it so cant do it that way,...
    it's not worth ruining the powder coat or i'd check the frame date code on the top motor mount,
    I'll run it with a dodgy USA plate or just tax it if all else fails,.....
    ,...……..thanks for all the prompt reply's fellas...………...
    That sounds like a plain to me....

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    If you want to stay dodgy, why not just stamp some convenient numbers on the belly and use that as solid proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andri View Post
    If you want to stay dodgy, why not just stamp some convenient numbers on the belly and use that as solid proof?
    here in England if you start fucking with numbers you'll soon be in a government Hotel at ''Her Majesty's Pleasure'',... only bike thieves play that game,....
    I don't mind running a foreign plate, that's just a slap in the wrists so to speak,...

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