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  • cisco
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 239

    Originally posted by ExplodingCoffinEmporium
    I’ll try to clear up some confusion from the picture and answer every question you brought up.

    How many were admitted for covid rather than being tested for it as part of obvious protocol?
    -At that particular moment 44/52, that’s why you see those outliers of Covid on non Covid units, we don’t move them once it’s been established they are Covid positive.

    Of the patients there due to covid how many are in ICU? 14/52 on that day as you can see in the screenshot.

    If 82% of the admitted patients are unvaccinated this does not mean the unvaccinated are more inclined to be hospitalized IF the general population has about the same % of unvaccinated.
    Illinois has a 64% fully vaccinated population. 160 was the total number of hospitalized on that day at that moment regardless of pathology. So with that being said 52 were in the hospital because of Covid with 44/52 coming to the ER and being admitted to the hospital because of Covid. That 82% I reffered to was based on the sample size of 52 Covid patient, not the 160 inpatients.

    I apologize if you think I’m trying to “fear monger”. I purely go to work and help patients. I pride myself in objectively performing my duties and view this entire pandemic through as scientific of a lens as possible. While a bunch of arm chair cowboys have been debating over the internet in regards to disease severity, spread, or even reality. I’ve been going to work every single week since the beginning dealing with this shit. We’re packed to the brim with patients everywhere right now. Elective surgeries are off the table, admits of non Covid nature are waiting eons to get into a bed, and staff is falling apart everywhere. It’s hell out there for healthcare workers or those needing care.
    I wasn't referring to you re the very real issue of 'fear mongering'. Thanks for the info again. I can't expand your chart to see closely and so had to go with just your summary wording. Believe me I do appreciate what you do for a living. I'm also at a 'hospital' although not as close to patients. But you need to have hope!!!! What I mentioned re the possible end to this shit show offers this and isn't 'armchair cowboys' but a growing number of non-political medical specialists, some from Africa where omicron began and some from the US and the UK. If you take the time to read my looong post some days ago re why and what I have found looking into the whole pandemic thing you will understand my heart felt concern that it has been capitalized on for nefarious reasons. Health care workers IMHO are 'canon fodder' and expendable and even fired for not getting vaxed.
    I'm honestly thinking the entire mess akin to a bunch of young soldiers (healthcare workers) being told to protect the aged and weak by charging the enemy (the virus) with sticks, not allowed guns with ammo, while the enemy has machine guns.
    The Pfizer CEO was just selected as CEO of the year by CNN by the way and he is clear on his position that 4 billion vaccine doses will be sold this year. He says the present version works against all variants then he says how Pfizer's developing a new vaccine for omicron. I get way better/accurate news from the likes of Jimmy Dore and Dr. John Campbell on YT than the Pfizer-sponsored shows/news networks. Early treatments ARE available like what Florida allows and what a growing number of Drs are making available risking their professional standing. Can't even mention ivermectin or you get kicked off UT. This is what we are facing with you on the front line and with me about a line back unfortunately. God Bless! Oh and I still am not hearing of omicron deaths. Your patients all delta? Crazy that this maybe isn't known to you while the media is mysteriously able to separate them before getting admitted.
    Last edited by cisco; 01-04-2022, 9:13 PM.

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    • Grandson
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2022
      • 1

      thanks for share this.In past two year millions people died due to this pandemic. I also share its states on Gb whatsapp Apk 2022

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      • Revelator
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2990

        Anyone who hasn't figured out by now that these injections are poison, Is a
        blind fool. The big pharma cash cow knows It, That is why They are 100% immune
        to any Liable against them for death or damage from their shots. They had to
        set that up before moving ahead with their plandemic that has made them rich.
        Anthony Bourla the head guy at pfizer has NOT gotten ANY of the shots. He admitted It.
        Ask Yourself WHY is that?
        The shots damage the blood & make it prone to clotting.

        Tatoo artists are even reporting that AFTER the big vaccine rush, Many of their client's
        blood is behaving very strangely. Normally when a tattoo is being made, the blood seeps
        out of the skin & the artist is always wiping away the blood with a damp towel.
        Not anymore. Many vaxed client's blood is not seeping out during the tattoo session.
        It doesn't take rocket science level thinking to figure that one out.
        soon, Millions will be dropping from blood clots, It is already happening.
        of course the mainstream bs media will blame the deaths on "covid" or "Unknown" to
        cover it up to please their supporters.
        Don't believe it? Watch the TV news channels & pay attention, They will say
        "This evenings News is brought to You by Pfizer"
        And modern day news is mostly covid bull shit scare mongering to push
        the injections on any fools dumb enough to watch main stream media.
        There is a reason why They will never report on ANYTHING that is good for health
        (such as taking vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D, Quercitin, or getting sunshine, Ivermectin,etc)
        The whole agenda is to get as many fools to roll up their sleeves, using manufactured
        fear. And constantly reminding the misinformed, to trust the science.
        Last edited by Revelator; 01-10-2022, 10:27 AM.

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        • ExplodingCoffinEmporium
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 357

          Originally posted by Revelator
          Anyone who hasn't figured out by now that these injections are poison, Is a
          blind fool. The big pharma cash cow knows It, That is why They are 100% immune
          to any Liable against them for death or damage from their shots. They had to
          set that up before moving ahead with their plandemic that has made them rich.
          Anthony Bourla the head guy at pfizer has NOT gotten ANY of the shots. He admitted It.
          Ask Yourself WHY is that?
          The shots damage the blood & make it prone to clotting.

          Tatoo artists are even reporting that AFTER the big vaccine rush, Many of their client's
          blood is behaving very strangely. Normally when a tattoo is being made, the blood seeps
          out of the skin & the artist is always wiping away the blood with a damp towel.
          Not anymore. Many vaxed client's blood is not seeping out during the tattoo session.
          It doesn't take rocket science level thinking to figure that one out.
          soon, Millions will be dropping from blood clots, It is already happening.
          of course the mainstream bs media will blame the deaths on "covid" or "Unknown" to
          cover it up to please their supporters.
          Don't believe it? Watch the TV news channels & pay attention, They will say
          "This evenings News is brought to You by Pfizer"
          And modern day news is mostly covid bull shit scare mongering to push
          the injections on any fools dumb enough to watch main stream media.
          There is a reason why They will never report on ANYTHING that is good for health
          (such as taking vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D, Quercitin, or getting sunshine, Ivermectin,etc)
          The whole agenda is to get as many fools to roll up their sleeves, using manufactured
          fear. And constantly reminding the misinformed, to trust the science.
          It’s Albert Bourla your referring to and he did get the vaccine. I will in no way however argue with the point that big pharma is making money hand over fist with the vaccine. The old saying, Cheap, fast, and good comes into play here, and we chose fast and good. People wanted a quick vaccine, they didn’t want to take the Hotez and Bottazzi route, which is cheap, currently rolling out, has a track record, and is open source. It’s not mRNA based so it can’t be adjust to variants as easily.

          Clotting, nope not buying that. I look over easily 50-100 D-dimers and PT/APTT results a day and have been since way before this pandemic began. I can only imagine the 10’s of thousands of those results a day that doctors and nurses are viewing in this country as they’re extremely common tools in our blood work up. There’s been absolutely no data to support that unless the entire medical community including myself as a whole has decided to orchestrate the biggest coverup in American history. I’m sorry, I wouldn’t ask a tattoo artist to diagnose my hypercoagulability just as I wouldn’t expect them to ask me about what my favorite size shading needle is.

          Vitamin C, Zinc, D, etc are all important daily components of a good diet and health, won’t hear any argument from me regarding there usefulness in general health.

          Ivermectin, interesting I will say. Effective at a very early stage in vitro. Not effective in vivo as per every study I have read thus far without far exceeding the therapeutic dose which is obviously no bueno.

          Be safe out there man.

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          • cisco
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 239

            Any concerns about clotting .... I take one a day of the 81mg (low dose) aspirin and as a diabetic who pricks fingers to draw blood drop samples I can assure you that the very next day of me taking it my blood was thinner as per the way it flowed. No doubt in my mind. So there's that. Unscientific/trialed but hey, it is supposed to thin your blood so all i can say is that I agree. It does.

            Re ECE's comment above...

            "Vitamin C, Zinc, D, etc are all important daily components of a good diet and health, won’t hear any argument from me regarding there usefulness in general health."

            You missed the point completely. For some reason your response was more a 'deflection'. Guess you have your reasons. Gov't is pushing vaccines while not mentioning AT ALL that we can improve our immune systems to fend off covid by taking these supplements. THAT clearly reflects corruption/hidden agenda/and probably worse IMHO.


            Then ECE states ...
            "Ivermectin, interesting I will say. Effective at a very early stage in vitro. Not effective in vivo as per every study I have read thus far without far exceeding the therapeutic dose which is obviously no bueno."

            Sorry but you aren't reading the reports i am reading from actual doctors practicing on actual patients. You are referring to a few studies also mentioned in the following. ANY study has limitations. I suggest you go to the FLCCCA website and check out the website links below. Also check the protocol for various stages and you'll see they also include their approach for improved steroid use for severe cases. These docs are true champions who successfully work with patients and who solidly support ivermectin as covid treatment. Clearly, your place of work like mine does not allow even discussion of ivermectin. Pharmacies won't sell it even under prescription. So please read the reference section to bring yourself up to speed on what doctors and scientists who have put their names and reps on the line have to say about it.

            Here's a link to guide you to it...

            A note on ivermectin: This page contains the medical evidence in support of the individual medical therapies that make up our MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19 as well as I-PREVENT, I-CARE and I-RECOVER. In October 2020, we added ivermectin to our COVID-19 protocols, which we regard as a core medication in the prevention and






            The protocols on this page represent our recommended approaches based on the best and most recent literature and research. The information is provided as guidance to healthcare providers worldwide and should only be used by medical professionals in formulating their approach to treatment. Please do not consider these protocols as personal medical advice, but as a


            The Latest Results of Ivermectin’s Success in Treating Outbreaks of COVID-19 The New York Times COVID “Mystery” solved! Cases have plunged in India in a few weeks. True The New York Times reported on July 30, 2021, that this is a mystery


            A pleasant review of the following 'Testimonials' also shows what actual people think of it after using it....

            Watch videos of Ivermectin testimonials and COVID treatment success stories shared with the FLCCC Alliance. Be inspired to take control of your health!


            Oh and I offer the above respectfully. Many have only heard one side and I have been neutral until compelling evidence has me convinced about what is really going on and that ivermectin has been 'railroaded in the dark' rather than given the light of day.
            Last edited by cisco; 01-11-2022, 8:14 PM.

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            • 70fatster
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 95

              Just heard Pfizer is about to roll out covid treatment pills. It would be a terrible waste if covid was going away...

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              • Revelator
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2990

                This evening's news is brought to You by Pfizer! & now the latest news......
                OMG millions are dying from "covid"!!! Here's the latest from Dr. Runt (smiling)......
                Hello everyone, Besides "YOUR" monthly booster shots, You need to try out the
                new covid pills! so that We
                can keep this cash cow going & going & going & going & going & going & going.
                Anthony Bourla is begging you all to be fully vaxxed (Even though Bourla has NOT received
                a single jab to this day!) Trust the Science! (His words).

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                • DoomBuggy
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2436

                  Please try fact checking what you post.

                  "The interview in which Bourla says he has not gotten vaccinated took place with CNBC on Dec. 14, three days after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued the first emergency use authorization for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.

                  Since the interview, Bourla has been vaccinated, and 28.6% of the U.S. population has received at least one dose and 15.8% have completed vaccination, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                  "That report is categorically false," Pfizer spokeswoman Sharon Castillo told USA TODAY via email. "Dr. Bourla has been fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine."

                  Bourla told Axios on HBO that he felt "liberated" after receiving the first of two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. He added that he would advise family members to get any vaccine, even if it is not the Pfizer shot.

                  "If it was the case, can I get a vaccine now – any vaccine now – or a vaccine that I prefer two months later, I would go with whatever I can get now," Bourla said.

                  On March 10, Bourla tweeted: "Excited to receive my 2nd dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech #COVID19 vaccine."

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                  • Dragstews
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 13739

                    Hummmmmm

                    Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                    • DustyDave
                      Super Moderator
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 2015

                      Originally posted by Dragstews
                      That's sad and really stupid.
                      Driving that train, high on cocaine
                      Casey Jones you better, watch your speed
                      Trouble ahead, trouble behind
                      And you know that notion just crossed my mind​

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                      • cisco
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 239

                        Thanks Dragstews. It kept freezing on me so I had to exit and enter again to continue at the time frozen.

                        Hey DD... I've had 2 jabs. Am still 'open minded' about possible bad effects. Your remark is kinda unusual.... doesn't even fit the vid contents. re the vid, any time a man stands up and puts his rep and findings and opinion on the line we should listen carefully. Take from his remarks what you will but try and be open minded and not dismissive without proof or discussion. We're all in this together as are our kids, grand kids and others we care about.
                        On TV we see so-called 'experts' tell us to take the vaccine and that the benefits outweigh the costs. I have sent in some questions but never get them addressed.

                        Bottom line is since these TV 'experts' do not know the vaccine ingredients then therefore they can not know the effects of them on humans. Also, if they do not know the ingredients then they can not know the combined effects of them either. AND since they do not know the long-term effects of the vaccine on humans they cannot say they are harmless/good/worth taking/pose no risk worth mentioning. Impossible to say without knowing the above. Impossible.

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                        • Revelator
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2990

                          "TV Experts" ? HaHa.... You mean the paid off clowns pushing the fake narrative?
                          Tonight's FEAR is brought to You by Pfizer!

                          Cisco, Have You ever considered paying attention to the profiteers who are behind the plandemic?
                          The CDC & WHO are heavilly funded by the Gates Foundation, & the idiotic TV network is very heavily
                          funded & controlled by the Big Drug corporations, The largest cash cow on planet earth.
                          "The World Population is heading towards 9 Billion.... Now If we do a REALLLLLLLLY GOOD Job with
                          New Vaccines, & Reproductive Health Care, We could reduce that number by perhaps 10 or 15 Percent"
                          -Bill Gates QUOTE (during a "Pre Covid" TED Conference that was discussing overpopulation).

                          Truth Bomb >>>>>> Bill Gates increased His net worth by almost double since the roll out
                          of the new vaccines began. No wonder that c**ksuc**r is always smiling in His interviews
                          when discussing the "covid numbers". or anything "covid" related.

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                          • cisco
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 239

                            Hey Rev.... maybe don't try and attack folks on YOUR SIDE. Maybe read my long f'n post a couple weeks ago starting with Trump and Hydroxyclorequin (sp?) HCQ for short. The elite made a deal with China. Gov't stopped working for us people a looong time ago and now it thinks and operates solely for corporations owned by the elite.

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                            • Revelator
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2990

                              Originally posted by cisco
                              Hey Rev.... maybe don't try and attack folks on YOUR SIDE. Maybe read my long f'n post a couple weeks ago starting with Trump and Hydroxyclorequin (sp?) HCQ for short. The elite made a deal with China. Gov't stopped working for us people a looong time ago and now it thinks and operates solely for corporations owned by the elite.
                              Relax, I'm not attacking you.
                              I just think anyone who gets these shots, should pay more attention to the money (Big pharma & It's Financiers) that
                              is driving the "pandemic" & think twice about who They are trusting.
                              (Mainly Gates, Fouci, mass media,CDC, WHO,& the controlled political puppets)
                              And you mentioned that you got two of the shots.
                              my advise.... Avoid the Booster.

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                              • cisco
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 239

                                I work in healthcare where my colleagues were fired for not getting the shot. Me, old and no prospects of kids w genetic ills. Need/want the $ so got the shot before knowing more about it. I have the cheap pill stuff and take it as advised on the FLCCCA website chart re prophylactic use. Don't forget that old biker expression..... "You gotta die from something."
                                My dog in this fight isn't for me but for kids, grandkids, future kids and a looming slave-race picture like exactly what is happening in China, the global elite's partner in crime on all this.
                                Oh and IMHO to find out exactly who is behind this I pray whistle blowers emerge from the FBI, CIA, Secret Service as to who controls the Epstein vids/evidence. I believe there's a small group of financiers at the helm keeping this stuff hidden but using it to control anyone against following orders. This evidence plus money to bribe MSM/elected gov't members and puppets in positions of authority is a classic top-down approach to this global problem.
                                Gates gave $300 million to MSM and he is big in the vax game. That's just one example. Dr. John Campbell on Utube just did a vid re Freedom of Information data from UK showing deaths are way way less than MSM/gov't claims. Like 1/10th. Fear mongering us all while eliminating the weakest/oldest. Oh he says average age of death of those healthy and who died from the virus is like 81.5 years old. This well above average life expectancy and no justification for healthy kids and adults to get vaxed especially ones that had the virus and developed immunity. True experts are generally saying no booster for at least 7-8 months after getting over the virus. Omicron has thrown a big wrench in the gears of this elitist plan and looks like people are getting the con-game drift of it.

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