Clutch

[armand]

Also makes a Hugh dig if you lube the cable

[DustyChop]

Thanks for the comments so far and i apologize for not being more specific. Its built and titled as an 09 SC. Late 90s Evo in a paughco wishbone. Yea its a 3 finger piece of trash. I was looking at going to a BDL. I guess right now my only issue is finding what year this dang motor is so i can find the right fitment.

[DustyChop]

Maybe I'm confused, but the engine doesn't have anything to do with the stiff clutch issue he's describing.

I've ridden an Evo rigid with a 4-speed ratchet top for 14 years and all the clutch related parts are relative to the 4-speed trans, not the Evo engine.

That said, it looks like you've got a stock type 3 finger clutch hub setup in the photo. All around not a great clutch. I would recommend either switching to a later model 5 finger clutch hub, or upgrading to aftermarket. The 5 finger will be the cheapest option, but I've run a BDL Competitor clutch on mine for the whole life of the bike and it works very well. It should also bolt straight into the belt drive clutch hub you have now, so you would only have to buy the clutch pack setup from BDL and you're ready to roll. Good luck.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332522521495&category=177940&pm=1&ds=0&t=1516323181381

I found this BDL competitor. It has alot of late 90s softails for fitment.

[DustyChop]

Its a 3 finger piece of dookie.. Looking to upgrade to a stock 5 finger or even a BDL competitor. That should help? Right now i need to find the exact year of this motor so i can purchase the right fitment.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332522521495&category=177940&pm=1&ds=0&t=1516323181381

Found this. It late model softail evos

[53panhead]

Its a 3 finger piece of dookie.. Looking to upgrade to a stock 5 finger or even a BDL competitor. That should help? Right now i need to find the exact year of this motor so i can purchase the right fitment.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=332522521495&category=177940&pm=1&ds=0&t=1516323181381

Found this. It late model softail evos

That won't fit your application.

[53panhead]

There is nothing wrong with a 3 finger set up if it's set up right.

[nuklhd]

there is nothing wrong with a properly set up 3 finger clutch. there a big buck options but you don't need it. take it apart and see what you have.

[nuklhd]

we were typing at the same time.

[DustyChop]

That won't fit your application.

Then what is going to fit? Thats what im having trouble with

[BadMonkeyMW]

Then what is going to fit? Thats what im having trouble with

I'm 99.9% sure that what you want to look for is something rated to fit 70-84 Shovels. The splines on the engine sprocket shaft are the same on that era Shovel and on Evos. Like I had said before, you can just replace the clutch hub assembly and keep the rest of your belt drive components that you have now. Would be a lot less expensive than buying an entire new belt drive.

And for the record, a 3 finger clutch is a piece of shit. I knew a couple dudes would come out of the woodwork and try to defend it, undoubtedly because they run one, but the fact is it's flawed from a design point no matter how well you "set it up". There's a reason H-D ditched it and switched to the 5 finger style. There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! Don't let your own ego get in the way of admitting something is inferior. I've been a professional mechanic for so long, I only care about what works the best and I'm not hesitant to call a turd a turd.

[farmall]

Five finger hub or stud kit + long bearing kit + tamer works for thousands of HD owners self included. You still have to adjust it properly.

[Blackbetty]

BDL competitors were considered the most inferior when compared to barnett scorpion and primo pro clutch

[Tattooo]

There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! .

They make them for people that don't know how to adjust a 3 finger correctly... And they can make money off of them... Plus a primo is more like the later set up and I agree it's much easier to set up..... Nothing like a 3 finger...

[Dragstews]

BDL competitors were considered the most inferior when compared to barnett scorpion and primo pro clutch

Going to be hard to attain a Pro-Clutch now that Primo has shut down production ...
Barnett has it going on with the Scorpion, the design is very much like a Bandit ...

[DustyChop]

I'm 99.9% sure that what you want to look for is something rated to fit 70-84 Shovels. The splines on the engine sprocket shaft are the same on that era Shovel and on Evos. Like I had said before, you can just replace the clutch hub assembly and keep the rest of your belt drive components that you have now. Would be a lot less expensive than buying an entire new belt drive.

And for the record, a 3 finger clutch is a piece of shit. I knew a couple dudes would come out of the woodwork and try to defend it, undoubtedly because they run one, but the fact is it's flawed from a design point no matter how well you "set it up". There's a reason H-D ditched it and switched to the 5 finger style. There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! Don't let your own ego get in the way of admitting something is inferior. I've been a professional mechanic for so long, I only care about what works the best and I'm not hesitant to call a turd a turd.

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/6100020/j-p-cycles-5-finger-clutch-hub-assembly

So this most likely what im looking for? And thanks for all the knowledge. This is becoming alot more understanding.