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    There is nothing wrong with a 3 finger set up if it's set up right.

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    there is nothing wrong with a properly set up 3 finger clutch. there a big buck options but you don't need it. take it apart and see what you have.

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    we were typing at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53panhead View Post
    That won't fit your application.
    Then what is going to fit? Thats what im having trouble with

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChop View Post
    Then what is going to fit? Thats what im having trouble with
    I'm 99.9% sure that what you want to look for is something rated to fit 70-84 Shovels. The splines on the engine sprocket shaft are the same on that era Shovel and on Evos. Like I had said before, you can just replace the clutch hub assembly and keep the rest of your belt drive components that you have now. Would be a lot less expensive than buying an entire new belt drive.

    And for the record, a 3 finger clutch is a piece of shit. I knew a couple dudes would come out of the woodwork and try to defend it, undoubtedly because they run one, but the fact is it's flawed from a design point no matter how well you "set it up". There's a reason H-D ditched it and switched to the 5 finger style. There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! Don't let your own ego get in the way of admitting something is inferior. I've been a professional mechanic for so long, I only care about what works the best and I'm not hesitant to call a turd a turd.

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    Five finger hub or stud kit + long bearing kit + tamer works for thousands of HD owners self included. You still have to adjust it properly.

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    BDL competitors were considered the most inferior when compared to barnett scorpion and primo pro clutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadMonkeyMW View Post
    There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! .
    They make them for people that don't know how to adjust a 3 finger correctly... And they can make money off of them... Plus a primo is more like the later set up and I agree it's much easier to set up..... Nothing like a 3 finger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbetty View Post
    BDL competitors were considered the most inferior when compared to barnett scorpion and primo pro clutch
    Going to be hard to attain a Pro-Clutch now that Primo has shut down production ...
    Barnett has it going on with the Scorpion, the design is very much like a Bandit ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadMonkeyMW View Post
    I'm 99.9% sure that what you want to look for is something rated to fit 70-84 Shovels. The splines on the engine sprocket shaft are the same on that era Shovel and on Evos. Like I had said before, you can just replace the clutch hub assembly and keep the rest of your belt drive components that you have now. Would be a lot less expensive than buying an entire new belt drive.

    And for the record, a 3 finger clutch is a piece of shit. I knew a couple dudes would come out of the woodwork and try to defend it, undoubtedly because they run one, but the fact is it's flawed from a design point no matter how well you "set it up". There's a reason H-D ditched it and switched to the 5 finger style. There's also a good reason you don't see Primo, BDL or Barnett making an aftermarket version of the OEM 3 finger clutch hub..........because it sucks! Don't let your own ego get in the way of admitting something is inferior. I've been a professional mechanic for so long, I only care about what works the best and I'm not hesitant to call a turd a turd.
    https://www.jpcycles.com/product/610...h-hub-assembly

    So this most likely what im looking for? And thanks for all the knowledge. This is becoming alot more understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChop View Post
    https://www.jpcycles.com/product/610...h-hub-assembly

    So this most likely what im looking for? And thanks for all the knowledge. This is becoming alot more understanding.
    Yep, that will work just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadMonkeyMW View Post
    Yep, that will work just fine.
    Now if i decided to go with the pro clutch is this all id need?

    https://www.leatherup.com/p/Cruiser-...ls/288561.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChop View Post
    Now if i decided to go with the pro clutch is this all id need?

    https://www.leatherup.com/p/Cruiser-...ls/288561.html
    That's it and they are bad to the bone.
    Sure, after you replace all the worn out shit and go five finger and keep it adjusted they work, do they pull like a primo? No. Do they adjust as easily or quickly as a primo? No. I take my shit apart a lot, fuck stock clutches.

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    I highly recommend the diaphragm clutch conversion that is available,...
    I have fitted them to two Shovelheads and a smaller version on my 45 Magnum,....
    they give you a one finger clutch that is smooth in operation and is fairly cheap,... About $135.
    On my last build I also used a Ten Finger Clutch Hub, Big Fix Bearings and a Period DPD Hydraulic Clutch kicker cover.
    https://www.motorcyclestorehouse.com/product/906957
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    Last edited by tzienlee; 01-19-2018 at 4:56 PM.

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    have you taken the primary apart to see what you have and what is salvageable? don't just start throwing money at it.
    dam, I just crawled out of the wood work again to type this

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChop View Post
    Now if i decided to go with the pro clutch is this all id need?

    https://www.leatherup.com/p/Cruiser-...ls/288561.html
    Yes, and that Primo setup is very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyChop View Post
    Now if i decided to go with the pro clutch is this all id need?

    https://www.leatherup.com/p/Cruiser-...ls/288561.html
    Damn if I would spend $500 on a clutch when you can fix what you have for free....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzienlee View Post
    I highly recommend the diaphragm clutch conversion that is available,...
    I have fitted them to two Shovelheads and a smaller version on my 45 Magnum,....
    they give you a one finger clutch that is smooth in operation and is fairly cheap,... About $135.
    On my last build I also used a Ten Finger Clutch Hub, Big Fix Bearings and a Period DPD Hydraulic Clutch kicker cover.
    https://www.motorcyclestorehouse.com/product/906957
    That looks really nice and clean...

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    Thanks Tattoo,... best money I have ever spent on a Harley clutch !!
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    Belleville spring .... ^^
    The new generation ....

    What makes that spring so good over the coil springs of yesteryear is it's ability to give even pressure all the way around the 360 degrees of the clutch pack ...



    Diaphragm clutch spring pressure plate includes 5-stud clutch, diaphragm spring, pressure plate, rollers, adjustment screw, and stud nuts.
    Updates old style coil spring clutch to new style diaphragm clutch for positive clutch engagement.
    Fits: Special application with open or closed primaries..

    http://www.vtwinmfg.com/Instructions/18/18-0540.pdf
    Last edited by Dragstews; 01-20-2018 at 9:35 AM.

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