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  • flatman
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 550

    #16
    Coffin head, if you clean up the top of the piston they should be stamped with a size?

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    • Dragstews
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 13739

      #17
      I may have the solution to this dilemma ...

      In the classifieds I have a pristine set of 80" jugs that are at Std bore..
      Been for sale for quite a while ...

      What I could do is an exchange for your jugs "IF" they are also in good shape with no broken fins or out to max bore...

      I can take my jugs out to .010" and fit new Pistons of your choice ...
      If interested in doing this deal, PM me and we'll talk Turkey ...

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      Last edited by Dragstews; 10-25-2017, 10:45 AM.
      Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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      • Tattooo
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 12407

        #18
        I don't think anyone has said it yet... But even if you buy a new set of jugs you will still have to have them checked to the size of the new pistons..... It's not just plug and play if that's what your trying to get around..........

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        • Dragstews
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 13739

          #19
          And each piston manufacturer has their own wall fit for their pistons...

          Wiseco's fit up close at .003" ... Oem cast is .001"
          Not all requires the same wall fit...

          I see you live in Canada .... Surely there is a shop close to you that can do a wiz-bang job with fitting oversize pistons ....
          But first you gotta know the size of what ya got ... You don't wanta be packing a set of .030" over jugs down to the shop and then they tell ya to take those home and make doorstops out of em ...
          Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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          • tomsoftail
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 231

            #20
            Originally posted by Dragstews
            And each piston manufacturer has their own wall fit for their pistons...

            Wiseco's fit up close at .003" ... Oem cast is .001"
            Not all requires the same wall fit...

            I see you live in Canada .... Surely there is a shop close to you that can do a wiz-bang job with fitting oversize pistons ....
            But first you gotta know the size of what ya got ... You don't wanta be packing a set of .030" over jugs down to the shop and then they tell ya to take those home and make doorstops out of em ...
            Can't he just invest in those LA tubes, liners and have those pressed in? I know that is only slightly more expensive than a set of moco new old stock ones...ha h a h a

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            • Dragstews
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 13739

              #21
              He can bring em back to Std bore by LA Sleeves ....

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              Cost wise, it would be cheaper to buy the re-pop jugs....
              I do sleeves to the oldies that new jugs are hard to come by...

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              ........... Save-A-Jug ...........
              Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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              • coffinhead
                Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 40

                #22
                I've pulled the jugs and am sending them to my local mechanic machinist to bore out for 150 $ and ordered a set of. 20 over wiseco pistons as Well as getting the heads gone through machines flat and vales sounds etc gone through with be putting back together within a week hopefully does anyone know what brand piston this is Click image for larger version

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                • coffinhead
                  Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 40

                  #23
                  I seen the w stamp so I checked wiseco couldn't match the part number or find anything online

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                  • Tattooo
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 12407

                    #24
                    Originally posted by coffinhead
                    I've pulled the jugs and am sending them to my local mechanic machinist to bore out for 150 $ and ordered a set of. 20 over wiseco pistons as Well as getting the heads gone through machines flat and vales sounds etc gone through with be putting back together within a week hopefully does anyone know what brand piston this is [ATTACH=CONFIG]79580[/ATTACH] stamp inside

                    I hope the guy is used to doing bike heads not just automotive. Most car machine shops cut to much off of bike parts because that's what they do day in and day out...

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                    • coffinhead
                      Member
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 40

                      #25
                      Sorry should have specified he's a machinist and a Harley triumph mechanic best within 400 km
                      Does all old bike I was just trying to save as much $ as possible but look like I'm going to be spending it get her nice and fresh

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                      • coffinhead
                        Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 40

                        #26
                        If I go repop
                        what brand jugs do you recommend

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                        • Tattooo
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 12407

                          #27
                          Originally posted by coffinhead
                          Does all old bike I was just trying to save as much $ as possible but look like I'm going to be spending it get her nice and fresh
                          I don't blame you for trying to save money.... I would also....

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                          • Dragstews
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 13739

                            #28
                            Originally posted by coffinhead

                            What brand piston is this .. ??

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]79580[/ATTACH]
                            That looks like a forged piston... The cuts at the bottom around the wrist pin kinda looks like the old TRW or Manley's .. ??
                            You might be dealing with a stroker ..??

                            Once you get them off the rod, there could be a name that can be seen at the top inside the piston...
                            ________________________________________

                            Originally posted by coffinhead

                            If I go repop what brand jugs do you recommend
                            S&S makes jugs in a stock bore...

                            But, as you said your wanting to save $$$ .... "Taiwan's Best" would fit the Bill ...
                            Last edited by Dragstews; 10-26-2017, 10:35 AM.
                            Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                            • coffinhead
                              Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 40

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Dragstews
                              I may have the solution to this dilemma ...

                              In the classifieds I have a pristine set of 80" jugs that are at Std bore..
                              Been for sale for quite a while ...

                              What I could do is an exchange for your jugs "IF" they are also in good shape with no broken fins or out to max bore...

                              I can take my jugs out to .010" and fit new Pistons of your choice ...
                              If interested in doing this deal, PM me and we'll talk Turkey ...

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]79564[/ATTACH]
                              Thanks for the offer I will let you know the bore of them tonight and head all fins are there no chicks and are in good shape maybe we can work something out thanks

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                              • Dragstews
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 13739

                                #30
                                Just to make sure the pistons that you will be getting can be used...
                                Be a wise idea to make sure your motor hasn't been stroked ...

                                You can pull the timing hole plug and look for numbers on the flywheel ... OR

                                Load the piston back on the rod without the rings on it and load the cylinder ...
                                Go to bottom dead center of stroke and measure to the top of the jug...
                                You should have a measurement of 4-1/4" ... If it's more than that ... "Woopee"
                                Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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