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    Default How cool are Vincents black shadows

    I was talking to a old timer earlier today and he brought up Vincent motorcycles, he said they were the baddest ponys in their day. I got home and googled them and boy are they dope and he was right fastest production motorcycle in 1948 I didn't even look at the auction just guessing they run anywhere from 50,000-200,000$ but man I'd give my left nut for one

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    Cool enough that I named my son, Vincent.

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    Nice! I can imagine it now
    Son: dad who am I named after?
    Pa: a motorcycle son

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    i'm sure everyone has seen the pic of rollie free laying prone in his bathing suit on his Vincent at the salt flats?
    I can't post photo's since the bucket put a gun to my head.
    http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/hall...px?racerid=178

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    Build threads, tech Q&A and conversations centered around custom-built motorcycles from the UK and Europe
    This thread belongs in the Junk Pile since it's got zero to do with the above.

    You can find all the Vincent info and pics you could want with a web search. If you have about fifty or sixty grand kicking around you can buy your own Vincent Rapide, (Black Shadows go for much more) but you'd better study your arse off because there is a lot of BS floating about.

    Vincent records are fragmentary and their construction wasn't very uniform in the first place so take any descriptions with a bag of salt. For example the engine case numbers show provenance of those cases (Vincents don't really have "frames" as such") so if you are offered a bike whose owner says it has a famous record behind it but doesn't have the right cases or engine, his assertions don't mean much. If you visit a Vincent gathering you can enjoy the variety and beauty while noting the details differ considerably by owner. That's actually cool because most owners aren't sticklers for some vision of accuracy they cannot verify.

    Vincents are very impressive for the ancient era they were made. I've ridden my bros Rapide (which he rode from SC to California and back) and they are pleasantly torquey and their engine construction makes their contemporaries seem junk by comparison.

    http://new.vincentspares.co.uk/machinesales.html

    There are usually one or two for sale at the Barber Vintage swap meet.

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    East Kirkby, Lincolnshire, England. 17/04/2016 on way to another record breaking run 10.68
    pics by Becci Ellis photography

    http://www.cravencollection.co.uk/fi...3093650800.JPG
    74yrs young, & still racing. Local Hero Dick Craven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicklyl View Post
    Nice! I can imagine it now
    Son: dad who am I named after?
    Pa: a motorcycle son
    Off topic, but hey, whilst we're on bout names............

    Dad, how comes my sister is called Teresa?"

    "Because your mum loves Easter and it's an anagram of Easter"

    "Thanks dad"

    "No problem Alan"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicklyl View Post
    Nice! I can imagine it now
    Son: dad who am I named after?
    Pa: a motorcycle son
    I tried to name my youngest Harley but his mother realized that would make him Harley David's son.
    Dusty

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    Good thing. No kid deserves to be saddled with a name based on pop culture, especially if he pursues a career where he needs to be taken seriously.

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    I read where Marc Bolan of T Rex named his son Rolan Bolan. I often wondered what Gary Puckett called his son.

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    If you got the money to spend they are cool as Hell.............

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    They are hot but the price tag is too high. Not that I got that kind of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoofhearted View Post
    I read where Marc Bolan of T Rex named his son Rolan Bolan. I often wondered what Gary Puckett called his son.
    Pick

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    History for Sale: Record-Breaking Vincent Black Lightning
    Bonhams to auction Jack Ehret's Australian-land-speed-record-breaking 1951 Vincent Black Lightning at its annual Las Vegas motorcycle auction, Jan. 25, 2018, in Nevada.

    Jack Ehret’s 1951 Vincent Black Lightning

    Jack Ehret’s 1951 Vincent Black Lightning, still in its original racing form.
    https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-...DBB5E160F3B6BB
    Sponsored by Bonhams
    October 2017
    https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-...A17ACC92947EA1
    Introduced in 1948, the Vincent Black Shadow was without question the first true Superbike of the modern era. Officially timed at 122mph, it was faster than the Jaguar XK120, then the world’s fastest production car. But even more performance was to come with the introduction that same year of the ultimate — and today most collectible — Vincent, the Black Lightning.

    Weighing just 360 pounds compared to the Black Shadow’s 458 pounds, the Lightning was a production racer based on the bike that Rollie Free famously rode to an AMA land speed record of 150.313mph. Featuring high-performance racing components, the Lightning produced a claimed 70 horsepower, 15 more than the Black Shadow.
    https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-...2DDE4E8F554897
    It is generally accepted that no more than 33 Black Lightnings left the Vincent factory in Stevenage, England, during the model’s 1948 to 1952 production. Those low numbers make any Black Lightning a machine of great rarity and historical importance. Yet few match the bike featured here, the famed 1951 Black Shadow ridden by Australian “Black Jack” Ehret to an Australian land speed record of 141.5mph in 1953 and soon to go up for sale at Bonhams’ annual Las Vegas Motorcycle Auction, Jan. 25, 2018.

    Jack Ehret’s 1951 Vincent Black Lightning

    Time warp: The mechanicals of the Ehret Vincent are fully reconditioned, but the bike is otherwise in exactly the condition as when last raced by Ehret.
    https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-...A17ACC92947EA1
    Originally owned by Aussie rider Tony McAlpine, who assembled the bike himself in June 1951 while working at Vincent, it was clocked at 130mph — in third gear — in July that year. McAlpine took the Lightning with him when he returned to Australia later that year, putting the bike up for sale. Car dealer Jack Forrest purchased the Vincent, then raced — and crashed it — in the Australian TT at Bathurst in the Senior Unlimited TT. In fact, Forrest crashed the Lightning in two of the three races he entered the bike. Those experiences apparently soured him on the Vincent, and he subsequently put it up for sale with Sydney Vincent dealers Burling and Simmons, where it was purchased by local racer Jack Ehret.

    Like Forrest, Ehret also entered the Lightning in the Australian TT, but with better results, finishing second in the 1952 event. Ehret’s success with the Lightning proved the bike’s superior capacity, and eager to get his name in the record books he set his sights set on the hotly contested Australian Land Speed Record. On Jan. 19, 1953, on a remote stretch of road in western New South Wales, Ehret made his attack on the record, riding the Lightning to an officially timed 140.509mph.

    Jack Ehret’s 1951 Vincent Black Lightning

    The gas tank, controls and instruments are original. The odometer shows 8,686 kilometers (5,385 miles), all accumulated during its 40-year racing career.

    Ehret continued racing the Vincent with great success, often with a sidecar attached. He was Australian Title points leader in 1954, and in 1955 he crossed the finish line at Australia’s Mount Druitt race in front of 500cc World Champion Geoff Duke. He finally won at Bathurst in 1956, in the Sidecar TT with George Donkin riding passenger.

    By the end of the 1950s, Ehret was no longer racing the Lightning, but in 1968 he pulled it out of storage for a race at Oran Park, coming in a respectable third in the sidecar class with John “Tex” Coleman riding passenger. Ehret would race the bike two more times, again at Oran Park in the late 1970s, but now in the Historic class and winning both of his races, and finally at Eastern Creek in 1993, where he lapped the entire field in the Historic Sidecar races with his son, John, riding passenger. After 40 years racing, the Lightning was finally retired, its provenance cemented with a record of having finished on the podium in 80 percent of its races.

    Jack Ehret on the Vincent Black Lightning
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    Jack Ehret on the Lightning in 1953 showing his riding position for his successful 141.5mph Australian land speed record run.

    Second chance
    Ehret shifted his attention from motorcycle racing to running nightclubs, and in 1999 he sold the bike to Aussie Franc Trento, owner of EuroBrit Motorbikes in Melbourne. Ehret died in 2001, a fact that perhaps inspired Trento to preserve the Lightning in its original race condition. In 2014 Trento sold the Lightning to the current owner, who shipped it to Vincent expert Patrick Godet in his native France.

    Once there, Godet and his team stripped the Lightning, rebuilding it internally as needed with new parts made from the original Black Lightning drawings. The crankcases, cylinders and heads are original, but the worn crankshaft was repaired and it has new pistons, piston liners, valves, valve springs and camshafts. Externally, Godet and his team labored to maintain the bike’s originality, replacing only those items necessary for safe riding. The brake and clutch cables, for instance, feature the original housings, but the inner cables are all new, all done to keep the Ehret Vincent looking exactly as it did when last raced by Jack Ehret.

    Jack Ehret at the 1952 Castlereagh Speed Trials
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    Jack Ehret on the Vincent at the 1952 Castlereagh Speed Trials.

    Without question the most significant motorcycle to be auctioned at Bonhams’ upcoming annual Las Vegas motorcycle sale, Jan. 25, 2018, the Ehret Vincent is expected to sell for more than $500,000, and Bonhams says that other consignments are now invited to accompany this rare, original condition Vincent Lightning. Importantly, if you are thinking of selling a classic motorcycle, the appearance of the Ehret Vincent at the Bonhams sale represents an excellent opportunity to sell yours, regardless of the make. Rare, highly desirable motorcycles drive interest and buyers to an auction, the majority of whom can only dream of owning a piece of history like the Ehret Vincent, but who will nonetheless be inspired to look for a suitable classic motorcycle of their own. Bonhams is accepting consignments until Nov. 25, 2017. Click here to consign your motorcycle in the 2018 Bonhams Las Vegas Motorcycle Auction.

    Vincent Black Lightning bodywork

    The Ehret-Vincent retains the sidecar used by Ehret in sidecar races and all its original competition bodywork.

    First held in 2011, the Bonhams Las Vegas sale has quickly become one of the biggest and most important events on the vintage motorcycle calendar, with sales almost doubling from $2.5 to $4.8 million in the ensuing years. Interest in the event is always razor sharp, and this year will be no different, thanks to significant motorcycles like the Ehret Vincent.
    https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-...0ED01443B5572F
    Jack Ehret’s 1951 Vincent Black Lightning

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    they are as cool as cool can be, if you can afford one. I had a chance to buy a very, very rough motor years ago, still wonder if maybe it would've been worth it.

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