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  • hardtailing12
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 85

    Four speed popping out of neutral

    I've attached a video showing how my tranny won't stay in neutral as soon as I kick it over it pops into gear. Clutch isn't dragging or slipping. Springs pull evenly. Pops out easily. Any help or tips will be appreciated.
  • hardtailing12
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 85

    #2

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    • Tattooo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 12407

      #3
      Either you have bent shifter forks of it's not set up in neutral... How old is the trans??? Has it been rebuilt recently????

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      • hardtailing12
        Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 85

        #4
        Thanks tatto. I popped the lid off last week and everything looked solid and straight. Trans is 73 . Internals weren't rebuilt.Both kicker cover and lid are nos chrome parts. . I installed the lid with the drum in nuetral position.You think my pushrod needs adjusting? Bike was running good a couple weeks ago.

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        • fastfiat
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 202

          #5
          Did you look at the detente spring?

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          • Tattooo
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 12407

            #6
            Originally posted by hardtailing12
            Thanks tatto. I popped the lid off last week and everything looked solid and straight. Trans is 73 . Internals weren't rebuilt.Both kicker cover and lid are nos chrome parts. . I installed the lid with the drum in nuetral position.You think my pushrod needs adjusting? Bike was running good a couple weeks ago.

            Why did you take the lid off??? Ok so your saying you changed the lid??? If you did just because it was in Neutral doesn't mean it is.... That's why they make a tool to set up a lid in neutral....
            Last edited by Tattooo; 06-14-2017, 4:27 PM.

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            • Dragstews
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 13739

              #7
              Pawl carrier bushing looks worn .... Shifter pawls and shaft might also be in bad shape.... ???

              Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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              • hardtailing12
                Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 85

                #8
                Have not checked out the detente spring. I installed the new lid cause the original was starting to crack and leaked oil, friend had this one laying around. I made sure the forks were centerd and not locked in gear.and caps were on when installing the new one . I might just pull it out agin this week and try to borrow the tool to see if that was the problem . Yeah it shifts through all gears just won't stay in neutral .

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                • Tattooo
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 12407

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hardtailing12
                  Have not checked out the detente spring. I installed the new lid cause the original was starting to crack and leaked oil, friend had this one laying around. I made sure the forks were centerd and not locked in gear.and caps were on when installing the new one . I might just pull it out agin this week and try to borrow the tool to see if that was the problem . Yeah it shifts through all gears just won't stay in neutral .

                  That's your problem it's the new lid... The forks are not supposed to be centered... Set it up like the manual says and you will be back to riding before you know it....

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                  • Tattooo
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 12407

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dragstews
                    Pawl carrier bushing looks worn .... Shifter pawls and shaft might also be in bad shape.... ???

                    He has a new lid.... At least that's what he said......

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                    • hardtailing12
                      Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 85

                      #11
                      yeah it's nos . Hmm ok I I'll pop it and see what I got in there this weekend

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                      • Dragstews
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 13739

                        #12
                        Sounds like something is up with the detent ...???

                        Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                        • hardtailing12
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 85

                          #13
                          Long shot but anyone in the Bay Area have this tool I could borrow . Just for a weekend

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                          • SamHain
                            • Apr 2024

                            #14
                            You can set forks without the tool. Put one side of the lid on a long neutral, carefully set the lid on/take it off and shim the fork as needed. Repeat for other fork.

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                            • Tattooo
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 12407

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SamHain
                              You can set forks without the tool. Put one side of the lid on a long neutral, carefully set the lid on/take it off and shim the fork as needed. Repeat for other fork.
                              Yea you can do that but it won't be right..... I've seen many people set them up that way and have problems.....Off the bike on a bench it's 50/50 on the bike 30%. That's what he did and look what he's got now?????

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