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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood View Post
    Thread should have been titled "how to turn a $3500.00 bike into a $350.00 bike" Sweet Jesus
    $3300 actually, got a pretty good deal.

    only 8k miles. Not a scratch on it. Like new.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer View Post
    I think it's cool your doing something different. One you get into a thing like this, the opinions of others don't hold much weight.
    Yeah they don't haha. I already have a sporty that's my daily rider. This is my fun project bike I get to do whatever I want to. Havin a blast.

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    Pulled out the turn signal module, freed up some space. Still have all the turn signal wiring up the backbone though. I'll probably wait to remove that until I'm thinning out the rest.

    Turn signal module? Naaaaaa. See yah!

    A photo posted by Dane "Milky" Mehl (@danemehl) on




    Then I installed a cheapo ching chong bing bong license plate bracket, temporary since I removed the rear fender. Just popped it into some split conduit and zipped it under the swingarm. Plan to eventually have it all mounted on the sissy bar. I don't like plates that stick out. Taillight was cheap, it's pretty funky, but not sure how I feel about it. Might look cool if I just rotated it and the plate 90 degrees counterclockwise. At least I can ride it at night again.




    Fender should be here soon. Lookin forward to that. Should clean up the weird strut look of the rear end.
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    Distinctive footpegs could catch the eye in two ways. From a distance at a glance then up close with artistic detail.

    BTW if you need some flat aluminum plate with cast fins, GM engine computers have nice cast bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    Distinctive footpegs could catch the eye in two ways. From a distance at a glance then up close with artistic detail.

    BTW if you need some flat aluminum plate with cast fins, GM engine computers have nice cast bodies.
    Thanks for the tip!

    I planned to change one of the pegs to a floorboard, made from whatever catches my eye. The other a footpeg, made from some old tool or something, maybe a railway spike. I'd love to find a good place locally to browse scrap. But haven't found one yet.

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    Just saying .......

    Ya got a way to go to catch up to this Ol Boy....



    ................................. King Rat..............................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    Just saying .......

    Ya got a way to go to catch up to this Ol Boy....

    ................................. King Rat..............................
    Yeah.... I've never liked that kind of rat bike. Gluing random stuff to your bike makes no sense to me. If it doesn't have function it shouldn't be on the bike.

    These are more my style:






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    I hear ya.....

    The Road-Kill is a bit too much....
    Can smell him coming two miles before he shows up ......

    (I know this cat, He's a Kentucky Boy, what can ya say..??) ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    I hear ya.....

    The Road-Kill is a bit too much....
    Can smell him coming two miles before he shows up ......

    (I know this cat, He's a Kentucky Boy, what can ya say..??) ..
    Everyones got their own style. That bike's for him. Shiny bikes are for some people. This bikes for me. He's obviously put a lot of time into making that bike the way he wants it, and that's cool. If it's your bike, do whatever the fuck you want to it.

    If I had the mechanical know-how and a good shop, I would have built a rat from the ground up, piece by piece, from random stuff I found at swap meets and the like. But I don't have those skills yet. So my idea with this bike was that I would find a nice working sporty, since I already know how to work on a sporty, and take it apart, sell all the nice stuff, and replace with parts with more ratty style that I can give character to. So it's not going to be a REAL rat bike, I wish, it's just going to be STYLED like a rat bike. And it will give me a chance to learn about new things.

    But the idea of the rat bike remains. A bike that is easy to maintain, only useful parts and things attached to it. Because if the world ends and you're stuck in the wasteland, you want the thing to pump out as much mpg as possible and have a big gas tank or a few ways of holding fuel, since you don't know when you might be getting gas again. Of course I'm going to add a few things here and there for style flair, but they won't weigh much.

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    Rode it some today. Fork oil level doesn't feel right. Seems really soft when I'm stopped and hold front brake and compress them. I never felt them bottom out though. Manual says 9oz wet, 10.2 oz dry. I had them all apart obviously, but they weren't completely dry. So I put 10oz in each. I'd like to do it off of oil level instead of ounces. But I can't seem to find any reliable information about level, and the manual only ever specifies ounces. I did find a thread here on CC that said somewhere between 4" and 5" from the top, compressed with springs out on stock forks. So I'd do 14"-15" but that seems like a REALLY wide gap.

    I did 4 overs on my other sporty, and just put spec oil level back in, but the heavier type, and they felt great.

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    Of course I'm going to add a few things here and there for style flair, but they won't weigh much.
    Fucking stop that nonsense. It's all for style and ain't nothin' wrong with that. You are building folk art and it's at least as anti-functional as a longbike. Folk art is fine, but always speak truth about it.

    If it were built for a real "apocalypse" it would be a dirtster style machine with a serious (non-rusting plastic) extended range tank, something iike Honda 600 forks, a luggage system and all the other gear serious ADV forum denizens built and use. It would be a war machine and as focused as any military vehicle. It would not be folk art.

    These Zombie Jackoff bikes are what people into video games and movies fap to when they dream of a social order they don't function well in being destroyed so their neckbeard fantasy skills would magically get used (instead of them getting shot to pieces by the first real militia types they ran into). That's totally fine, but zombie rides are what they are and they aren't anything else.

    Fantasy is a perfectly legit aspect of folk art!

    If your fork feels too soft that may be due to the changed CG due to fork extension. Picture how your geometry changes with extended tubes. There should be more rear weight bias now.

    I did 4 overs on my other sporty, and just put spec oil level back in, but the heavier type, and they felt great.
    That's likely the way to go. Your damper rods will still be submerged by stock quantities of oil (measured volume is accurate) so more isn't likey to change anything, but heavier viscosity might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    Fucking stop that nonsense. It's all for style and ain't nothin' wrong with that. You are building folk art and it's at least as anti-functional as a longbike. Folk art is fine, but always speak truth about it.

    If it were built for a real "apocalypse" it would be a dirtster style machine with a serious (non-rusting plastic) extended range tank, something iike Honda 600 forks, a luggage system and all the other gear serious ADV forum denizens built and use. It would be a war machine and as focused as any military vehicle. It would not be folk art.

    These Zombie Jackoff bikes are what people into video games and movies fap to when they dream of a social order they don't function well in being destroyed so their neckbeard fantasy skills would magically get used (instead of them getting shot to pieces by the first real militia types they ran into). That's totally fine, but zombie rides are what they are and they aren't anything else.

    Fantasy is a perfectly legit aspect of folk art!

    If your fork feels too soft that may be due to the changed CG due to fork extension. Picture how your geometry changes with extended tubes. There should be more rear weight bias now.


    That's likely the way to go. Your damper rods will still be submerged by stock quantities of oil (measured volume is accurate) so more isn't likey to change anything, but heavier viscosity might.
    You don't get to be picky about what you ride in a wasteland! But you're right. I just wanted an excuse to have another sporty haha. Also I can't manage to take good care of shiny things, so why not embrace the grunge and have some fun with it.

    I think I'll try adding half an oz to each fork, if that doesn't change, I have some of the heavy and I'll swap it out for that.

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    Sketched out one idea for pipes today. Also added in the other ideas I had. This ammo box is pretty big. I think I could fit the battery and all connections inside. Drill and insert lights for neutral, high beam, and oil. 3 position toggle for headlight. Drill in the key ignition, and also mount the voltage regulator to the outside of it, if the oil tank gets in it's way up front. I'm assuming the voltage regulator needs airflow? Otherwise why does it have fins on it?


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    Dropped 0.2 oz into each just to hit that spec mark and see if it made a difference. Barely felt anything. So I dropped in half an oz. That definitely felt better. But having the struts in the back is making it hard to tell. I might swap the shocks back on while I adjust the fork oil.

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    An Apocobike could run something like remote reservoir dirt bike shocks, which are also comfortable and have room for an obnoxious paint job highlighting the reserviors.

    There's no reason to add physical discomfort after all.

    My gunsmithbro mounted a locking holster to his gas tank. He's got a carry permit and knows all the local cops so it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmall View Post
    An Apocobike could run something like remote reservoir dirt bike shocks, which are also comfortable and have room for an obnoxious paint job highlighting the reserviors.

    There's no reason to add physical discomfort after all.

    My gunsmithbro mounted a locking holster to his gas tank. He's got a carry permit and knows all the local cops so it's all good.
    If the struts don't work out I did consider running some covered shocks. Since they would look obnoxiously big on the narrow rear.

    I'm in CA. A carry permit of any kind is extremely difficult to get. Pretty much unless you're a body guard, are a gun shop owner, or have a seriously threatening stalker, the County Sheriff won't issue ANY carry permits.

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    Left side split tank is left hand threads and non-vented. Since it will be the only tank, it needs a vent. So in my fashion I ghetto'd one up.



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    [QUOTE=Dane;742403]THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SPORTSTER SECTION. CAN SOMEONE MOVE IT FOR ME? Thanks

    This belongs in the Junk Pile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaking View Post
    What do you mean?

    Wait a sec. Do the dimples go on top or bottom?

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    Got my sweet ass risers. Smaller diameter riser bolt though, 7/16". Had to do some modifications to make them work. They're still not completely RIGID. I don't know if there's some other riser bushings I can get that will fit these better.

    Tried the other bars but they looked like crap, and not in a good way. So I popped the stock handlebars back on. Clutch and switch wires weren't long enough to run em normal, so I swapped em. I think it looks pretty cool from the front. It will do for now.

    Not sure how I feel about the struts. I'm going to try some shorter seat springs, if that doesn't feel any better I might just swap the shocks back in and rigid mount the seat. Could go with the stockers for that norcal look. Or I could drop with some shorter ones. What's the deal with lowering blocks? Are they just horrible for the bike? I have no worry about fender clearance (obviously) just the belt.

    If I go that route I'll be re-sketching the back end in a whole different way. I have a feeling that will happen a lot as this build progresses.
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    Thought the previous owner said he had done progressive springs, I couldn't remember what they looked like from the take-down so I pulled them out and they're definitely stock springs. Ordered up some progressive. We'll see how that helps.

    Put the shocks back on for now. Until I get the forks all sorted out, then I'll try the struts again. But I have a feeling I won't like it and I'll be changing the whole build to incorporate rear shocks. Which will involve a redesign of the seat and sissy bar, everything on the back will be changed.

    Scooted around town. The bars are actually pretty awesome feeling. This really weird flex though since the riser bushings are the wrong size and I had to MacGyver them to work. It's safe just.... you gotta know about it ahead of time or you'd be seriously confused.

    I'm putting a hold on a lot of the aesthetic parts of this build and I'm going to just focus on setting the ride quality the way I want. Then I'll resume the rest. So it's going to look like crap for a while. But at least it's fun to ride again.


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