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    123 tweets and re-tweets in one day. a new record for him.
    A teenage girl tweets less than that idiot.

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    Another day, another senior moment from the Dem front runner.

    https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/stat...r-obamacare%2F

    I guess it could be worse? At least he's not creeping on kids at a pool, then conflating them with "cockroaches"

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    Would have complained about John Hancock too I suppose?

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    What is really needed is a real trial! Then a secret vote so no repercussions can be taken against anyone.

    The Dems and Republicans equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillcat View Post
    123 tweets and re-tweets in one day. a new record for him.
    A teenage girl tweets less than that idiot.
    So undignified for the President of the United States of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confab View Post
    I honestly don't know how much testimony they want to allow in McConnell's Senate?

    I know Trump wants a fire breathing, chest beating, full blown trial and to drag everyone up there and make them talk. I understand why - He never got a fair shake in the House hearings and he wants his day in court. He wants to embarrass these people. Totally human reaction. Completely justifiable.

    But, Hunter Biden isn't a one off. The guy is dirty and so is Joe. And so are some other high ranking dems and their siblings.

    But so is Mitch.. He's got some really uncomfortable familial ties to industry in China. Even in the House, you have people like Amash who rely on Asia for their wealth. Let alone this slight of hand nonsense Hunter got caught at. Who knows how far back this goes or who it touches?

    I don't know if they want to expose all of the bipartisan political establishment's foreign affairs (Have you seen a list of who served on the Burisma board over the years? I haven't.) so much as just acquit Trump, pat each other on the back, and make it all go away..
    The whistle blower does not have to appear since he or she is not a material witness. Every lawyer knows this.

    Burisma is only a holding company.
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    Well, I suspect the Bar Association of Twitter could very easily be wrong about that.

    And it doesn't matter... Burisma could be an ice cream shop in Ukraine and it would change nothing. Then, of course, there's the billion and a half dollar deal in China to consider.

    Frankly, the democrats are accusing Trump of something their own front runner did. We don't even have to speculate about it because he isn't very bright and bragged about it on camera.

    I think it is hilarious. They've surely doomed Biden's third presidential run with their antics.

    This matters because, as of right now, he would appear to be the only candidate who can compete in the battlegrounds Trump needs to win.

    Liz and Bernie think most democrats are a bunch of raging ignoramuses, so angry with "the corporations" that they'll believe the unworkable (and unconstitutional) hokum they spew.. And that won't happen.

    Only the progressive base is that foolish, angry and backward..

    This leaves Joe and Mayor Pete.

    Minorities hate Pete.. When you are a democrat, you have to have large percentages of the minority vote to win.

    Which leaves Joe.

    This was an extremely short sighted strategy. It cost them their front runner. It will guarantee no republican crossover votes for moderates and a huge Republican turnout in November. (I can't wait to vote! I wish the election was tomorrow!) Trump won't be removed by the senate. The democrat base and the House democrats have behaved so atrociously that they even lack the moral wherewithal to credibly indict Trump in the first place.

    It's a mistake, but.. I'm loving it.

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    PS: This little game they're playing ends the second they take a vote.

    It then leaves their hands and goes to the Senate.

    They are expected to vote next week. It is goodbye at that point.

    The circus is packing them all back in the VW and leaving town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confab View Post
    PS: This little game they're playing ends the second they take a vote.

    It then leaves their hands and goes to the Senate.

    They are expected to vote next week. It is goodbye at that point.

    The circus is packing them all back in the VW and leaving town.
    No matter how incompetent, or inept the Dems might be, it still does not excuse Trump. He is guilty 20 times over, you know it, I know it, over 50% of America knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post
    No matter how incompetent, or inept the Dems might be, it still does not excuse Trump. He is guilty 20 times over, you know it, I know it, over 50% of America knows it.
    It's the President's duty to expose crimes like what the Biden's are guilty of. Or are you good with billions of taxpayer dollars going to a foreign company only to be laundered and funneled back to a lying stinking politician and his son? Myself, I'm damn glad it has been brought to light. The only problem with this entire thing, is that the Dems are so butt hurt and filled with open hate that they can't get past 2016... They were made fools of then, and they continue to be. As far as "50% of America" goes, I think you are going to be shocked come 2020. And after nest week, if the vote happens... Trump WILL NOT be removed from office. The senate will kill it unanimously.

    To answer someone else comment about tweeting, I personally love it. It's funny as hell to watch the libs lose it evcerymtime he tweets. He's the biggest troll in the country and they fall for it every single time. He does it because he knows it fucks their stupid heads up. Can you say 'Don Lemon'? God that was hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post
    No matter how incompetent, or inept the Dems might be, it still does not excuse Trump. He is guilty 20 times over, you know it, I know it, over 50% of America knows it.
    I truly don't think he's guilty of anything.

    What exactly are you referring to?

    Russia was a dead end. Ukraine is subjective, and the facts don't support a quid pro quo

    Is there some other Trump issue I am unaware of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman96 View Post

    To answer someone else comment about tweeting, I personally love it.
    Frankly? I vacillate between that and cringing.. Depends on the issue.

    Sometimes it is like: "Hell, yeah!" Others, it is like: "Oh geeze.. Seriously?"

    But, I realize it is an effective medium to go over the MSM's head when he so desires.

    I do know some of it is strategic. He will attempt to change the news cycle with it.

    Sometimes it works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBuggy View Post
    No matter how incompetent, or inept the Dems might be, it still does not excuse Trump. He is guilty 20 times over, you know it, I know it, over 50% of America knows it.
    Well that's calling the kettle black! Two ignoramuses pointing out each other's faults? That's how you see it?

    And just what High Crime or Misdemeanor is the President guilty of?

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    Default I can think of a few .....

    1) Obstructing of Justice



    Trump’s hand-picked Attorney General William Barr may have tried to clear him of this charge, but Special Counsel Robert Mueller specifically did not exonerate him. A review of the Mueller Report and information already in the public record shows why: Trump interfered in federal investigations and tried to influence their outcomes, violating federal law. That is a clear case of obstruction that any other public official would be prosecuted for. In this case, that job falls to Congress.

    2) Profiting from the Presidency



    Because Trump never divested from his business interests, he violates the Constitution every time the Trump Organization has business dealings with foreign or American government officials.

    The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.

    Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
    Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.

    Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration.

    Saudi officials and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests.
    China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies.

    Trump promoted his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference, and then the White House announced the multi-million dollar contract was awarded to Trump’s own resort after Trump’s suggestion. Ultimately, this contract was canceled despite his attempts to abuse his position.

    And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
    To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

    3) Soliciting Foreign Interference in US Elections



    Trump tried to cover up his campaign’s contacts with a Russian national—which, at very least, constituted a violation of federal law.
    Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national.

    2016

    Donald Trump publicly called on Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s “missing” emails on July 27, 2016. Five hours later, Russian hackers attacked Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
    In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting.
    Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimnik, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy.
    2020

    Trump used U.S. military aid to pressure Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 elections and must be impeached because no one is above the law.
    He illegally withheld $400 million dollars of military aid to Ukraine and in a call with the President of Ukraine, asked them to “do us a favor” by investigating Joe Biden’s family and a debunked conspiracy theory (that has been pushed by Russian intelligence) alledging Ukraine hacked the DNC’s computer servers.

    White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney admitted in a press conference that Trump had withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure them to investigate his rivals for the 2020 election. He told the public to “Get Over it” as the White House does this “All the time”. Other State Department officials made it clear to the Ukrainian government that the aide would not be released unless the Ukrainians investigated the Biden family for the purpose of helping Trump win re-election.

    Trump told the press that, in addition to Ukraine, China should investigate the Bidens specifically and said “If they [China] do what we want, we have tremendous power” in ongoing trade negotiations.
    After this occurred, a Trump aide claimed that the Chinese had, in fact, given him information on Hunter Biden’s business dealings in the country.

    Multiple witnesses confirmed in the public impeachment hearings before the House Intelligence Committee that Trump was attempting to bribe and extort Ukraine into helping his reelection.

    4) Advocating Political & Police Violence



    Trump has demonstrated a pattern of behavior amounting to advocating violence, undercutting equal protection, and, as a result, failing basic Constitutional duties.

    When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
    When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.

    Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence.
    When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters.

    5) Abuse of Power



    Trump’s pardon of Joe Arpaio violates the Fifth Amendment and harms the guarantee of Constitutional rights.
    President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power.

    Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan.

    In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers.
    Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.
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    6) Engaging in Reckless Conduct



    Trump cannot be permitted to recklessly and needlessly endanger millions of Americans with his unstable behavior.
    High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.

    Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
    We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.

    The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
    If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

    7) Persecuting Political Opponents



    Trump’s threats against political opponents are threats against American democracy.
    President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.

    This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.

    Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
    Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
    There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

    8) Attacking the Free Press



    Trump’s threats against freedom of the press are also threats against American democracy.

    President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
    He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
    His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.

    He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
    This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.

    9) Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process



    Trump's policy endangers thousands of immigrant children and families, and defies basic Constitutional values.

    Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.

    The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
    Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.

    Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.

    10) Violating Campaign Finance Laws



    Trump committed at least two felonies to illegally cheat his way into office.

    Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.

    At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.

    Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
    Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
    Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.

    Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.

    I could go on, but don't see a need for a house to fall on ya ....







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    Dragstews speaks truth.

    123 tweets in one day. I did the math and it comes out to like one every 8 minutes if you had 16 hrs. awake and 8 asleep. That's fucking insane.
    Think about what he got done that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragstews View Post
    6) Engaging in Reckless Conduct



    Trump cannot be permitted to recklessly and needlessly endanger millions of Americans with his unstable behavior.
    High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.

    Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
    We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.

    The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
    If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

    7) Persecuting Political Opponents



    Trump’s threats against political opponents are threats against American democracy.
    President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.

    This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.

    Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
    Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
    There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

    8) Attacking the Free Press



    Trump’s threats against freedom of the press are also threats against American democracy.

    President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
    He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
    His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.

    He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
    This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.

    9) Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process



    Trump's policy endangers thousands of immigrant children and families, and defies basic Constitutional values.

    Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.

    The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
    Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.

    Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.

    10) Violating Campaign Finance Laws



    Trump committed at least two felonies to illegally cheat his way into office.

    Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.

    At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.

    Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
    Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
    Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.

    Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.

    I could go on, but don't see a need for a house to fall on ya ....







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    lol..

    That isn't the absolute silliest thing I ever read on the internet. But it is close.

    It is a cut and paste from "Need to impeach" A website launched by Tom Steyer - a nut and a total hypocrite, who spends millions to bore people to death with TV ads repeating the same nonsense allegations over and over and over.. To zero effect whatsoever.

    I'll answer it if you want? But none of it constitutes a serious case against Donald Trump.

    Let alone an impeachable one.

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