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  • a40nabowl
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 231

    Stuck / Seized lower shock struts!

    These damn struts won't budge! I have soaked them in ever fluid that would do the trick . Hammered the fuck out of it on a block and no budge !!! Its my first swing arm build. I was wondering if it is normal for the lower struts to get stuck like this , and how to best remove it ?

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  • Tattooo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 12407

    #2
    Originally posted by a40nabowl
    These damn struts won't budge! I have soaked them in ever fluid that would do the trick . Hammered the fuck out of it on a block and no budge !!! Its my first swing arm build. I was wondering if it is normal for the lower struts to get stuck like this , and how to best remove it ?

    Have you tried any heat???

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    • farmall
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 9983

      #3
      Second the heat. Don't overheat the swingarm.

      You can cut off the outer part of the mount with a cutting disc then use a six-point socket, a large breaker bar, and a cheater pipe on the bar to move them better than a box-end wrench.

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      • a40nabowl
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 231

        #4
        Originally posted by Tattooo
        Have you tried any heat???
        No heat, I figured if I head the swingarm, it would also heat the bolt and it would expand them both. I guess I can use a small flame and use a six-point socket like framall recommended as well.

        Do these lower struts get stuck like this? Is this common?

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        • Pendulum
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1724

          #5
          I'd cut the box end of a wrench, and slide a long pipe over it to get some leverage (using the open end on the "bolt").

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          • Grantman
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 1486

            #6
            Originally posted by Pendulum
            I'd cut the box end of a wrench, and slide a long pipe over it to get some leverage (using the open end on the "bolt").
            Instead of cutting the wrench isn't it easier (and keeps a better grip) to put to box end on the nut you are removing and use the box end of another wrench on the open end of the wrench that's on the nut to get more leverage? I really hate cutting up tools because I was taught by my dad "Buy good tools, you only have to buy them once."

            Plus, I've always found open end wrenches like to open and slip on anything that is really tight.

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            • bparsel
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 549

              #7
              Originally posted by Pendulum
              I'd cut the box end of a wrench, and slide a long pipe over it to get some leverage (using the open end on the "bolt").
              Haha, this is honestly the weirdest advice???


              The box end will grip better due to more edges making contact, and instead of cutting off part of the wrench why wouldnt you just get a piece of pipe with a larger diameter that can slide over the wrench as is?

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              • Pendulum
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1724

                #8
                Originally posted by bparsel
                Haha, this is honestly the weirdest advice???


                The box end will grip better due to more edges making contact, and instead of cutting off part of the wrench why wouldnt you just get a piece of pipe with a larger diameter that can slide over the wrench as is?
                I personally don't keep pipe w/ that big of an ID around, and I'd rather sacrifice a wrench that I have multiples of than come up w/ a pipe that I'll probably not use again for a long time.

                Originally posted by Grantman
                Instead of cutting the wrench isn't it easier (and keeps a better grip) to put to box end on the nut you are removing and use the box end of another wrench on the open end of the wrench that's on the nut to get more leverage? I really hate cutting up tools because I was taught by my dad "Buy good tools, you only have to buy them once."

                Plus, I've always found open end wrenches like to open and slip on anything that is really tight.
                Maybe you're confusing a crescent wrench w/ an open-end wrench? The reason I suggested using the open end rather than the box end is because the box end is more likely to round/strip the fastener in my experience on really stubborn stuff. As for cutting up a good wrench, I agree on that one. I try to keep extras for the common sized fasteners, because that way when someone needs to borrow it I don't have to loan out my good stuff (or when I have dumb ideas to cut/weld shit together to get a task done).

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                • Sky
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3038

                  #9
                  Ah, a six point box end wins over a clapped out twelve point anyday. Probably a cheap wrench too is my guess, if it's worth less than a length of pipe.
                  Just busting your balls,Pendulum. And furthermore a (proper sized) crescent flexes open way less than an open end would
                  Ever hook the box end of a larger wrench to the open end of the wrench in use? instant leverage. I keep an old fork tube around for macho occasions.
                  Why is the OP removing the studs? And using such a short wrench??
                  Applied heat and impacts are your friends

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                  • a40nabowl
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 231

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sky
                    Ah, a six point box end wins over a clapped out twelve point anyday. Probably a cheap wrench too is my guess, if it's worth less than a length of pipe.
                    Just busting your balls,Pendulum. And furthermore a (proper sized) crescent flexes open way less than an open end would
                    Ever hook the box end of a larger wrench to the open end of the wrench in use? instant leverage. I keep an old fork tube around for macho occasions.
                    Why is the OP removing the studs? And using such a short wrench??
                    Applied heat and impacts are your friends
                    OP is trying to remove the lower struts to have them machined to take on the DYNA shocks that have a smaller diameter. The DYNA shocks have a metal sleeve that does not allow the older struts to enter. And yes, this is a cheap ass wrench.

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                    • bayko
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 36

                      #11
                      Less arguing about wrenches, more heat!

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                      • greaseTrap
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 204

                        #12
                        i just did the same mod a week ago, except i just swapped out the metal sleeves on the dyna shocks and used the sleeves from my older style shocks.. i tapped them out with a small deep well socket.. keep it simple..

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                        • jeremystephens
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 163

                          #13
                          HEAT!!!
                          I first saw the heat trick many years ago after fighting something that was froze for days. Grey beard came by and I asked for advice...... maybe a min later it broke loose with almost no effort.
                          70% of the time it works every time.

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                          • a40nabowl
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 231

                            #14
                            Originally posted by greaseTrap
                            i just did the same mod a week ago, except i just swapped out the metal sleeves on the dyna shocks and used the sleeves from my older style shocks.. i tapped them out with a small deep well socket.. keep it simple..
                            I have new sets of bushing for the old school shocks , but they don't have sleeves. Can I run it without sleeves ? So you are saying the sleeve in the DYNA is in there with pressure and no sort of adhesive is holding it against the rubber and can be hammered out?

                            You got a photo ? I only ask for a photo since the older lower strut is longer then the DYNA chamber, so I wanted to see what you did with the extra space. Thanks
                            Last edited by a40nabowl; 11-20-2014, 2:53 PM.

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                            • greaseTrap
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by a40nabowl
                              I have new sets of bushing for the old school shocks , but they don't have sleeves. Can I run it without sleeves ? So you are saying the sleeve in the DYNA is in there with pressure and no sort of adhesive is holding it against the rubber and can be hammered out?

                              You got a photo ? I only ask for a photo since the older lower strut is longer then the DYNA chamber, so I wanted to see what you did with the extra space. Thanks

                              Post a pick of the shocks you want to use. And yes you MUST have the metal spacer in the bushing!!!!
                              The metal sleeve will tap out

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